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Uncertainty about the information received
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| Poorly timed information |
Q1: You know [with the first urologist] we were just confused. At first he started talking about recurrence and my wife and I were sitting there looking and I said, why is he talking about recurrence? And he was talking about the different ways of attacking this and the chances of it coming back but that was like 3 steps down the road as far as I was concerned. (P003, 69 y, early stage) |
Q3: So once I got the results [of the biopsy], this first urologist wanted to basically do surgery. He said: you know you could wait and you might live until you're 70 but I think you should do the surgery and we should do it within the next month or so. So at that point I kind of put on the brakes, and I was already not liking this guy anyway, so I pretty much told him thanks and I don't think I'll be seeing you again. (P012, 64 y, early stage) |
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Q2: Dealing with a urologist who diagnosed me, told me about the cancer in that very same meeting, who sort of suggested that I do surgery pretty rapidly, I felt a little uncomfortable, as though I was being pushed into things just a tiny bit. But I think that was maybe because I just didn't like the fact that I just heard I had cancer and I was scared to death at the time. It was going fast and I maybe wasn't in the right frame of mind to really be receptive to him at that time. (P011, 64 y, early stage) | |
| Insufficient or biased information |
Q4: The information just wasn't put out there. I mean I knew about active surveillance, the hormone, the radiation; it just, I don't know, nothing was really explained to me as well as Dr. A [who provided the second opinion] explained it. [The first urologist] went through the options but didn't really go deep into it. (P020, 59 y, early stage) |
Q6: The surgeons were pushing surgery […] I liken them to a car dealership. In other words, the surgeon was the Volvo dealership and they wanted to sell Volvos and the radiation was the Mercedes dealership and they were pushing Mercedes and I just felt that there was too much conflict there for me to make a good decision at that time. And that's when I sought […] a second opinion. (P010, 72 y, early stage) |
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Q5: The first two doctors, I really felt were trying to push me towards surgery. […] I guess that I sort of felt like if I could use the analogy that when you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail. (P012, 64 y, early stage) |
Q7: I mean these people, as far as I can tell, they all know what they're talking about very well, and there have not been any inconsistencies in what they've told me; it's just that each person has his special area of expertise and as I've gone for more opinions, I've been able to ask more and better questions myself. It's a learning process. You start out knowing nothing. If I could've asked the first guy all the questions I've thought of now, then it might've been a shorter process. But each of these people has given me the scoop on what they do and the pros and cons in a firsthand way. That's been very valuable. (P031, 68 y, early stage) |
| High information needs |
Q8: There's some people who'll just go home and forget about it but I don't. So once I know the results but don't understand them, I'm going to start Googling everything having to do with prostate cancer and Gleason scores and PSA's and everything else. And you can imagine what kind of results you get. A lot of them are fairly scary and depressing. Because it's not contextualized properly. So it creates a lot of anxiety and worry and further misunderstanding. (P006, 54 y, early stage) |
Q9: But still, it's worth the effort and I frankly was fortunate that I have the flexibility financially to go do this sort of stuff and most people don't. But I'm working part time so I did not have a time or economic restriction to pursue these things. And most people simply can't do that, and I'm well aware of that. (P021, 67 y, advanced) |
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Q10: A dear friend of mine is a surgeon at [hospital A]. I said, look I'm in a terrible pickle; I need the best you have down there. And this guy arranged for me to see Dr. C. So I was lucky because of these contacts. At [hospital B], again I could get to a high level guy pretty quickly. […]
I: And is there a moment where you have enough information?
R: Well it's a matter of diminishing returns. I think if you hit two people at major centers and they seem to pretty well coincide and they seem to talk about the same body of information. [.] But if they disagreed a great deal or if there was some serious issue like that, then I wouldn't have any hesitation but to go to a third person. (P017, 72 years, advanced)
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Uncertainty about how to integrate the information
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Q11: It's like you get an appliance that's supposed to make your work easier for you but you don't know how to use it. You have the education; you don't know how to apply it. (P027, 62 y, advanced) |
Q15: One thing in my mind is, is there someone out there who would be, in terms of the type of treatment, a neutral. That I could talk with or consult with. I'm considering maybe seeing if my urologist would be willing to have another consultation where he's kind of a neutral that I have confidence in. (P016, 69 y, early stage) |
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Q12: I: And could the doctors play any role in reducing the uncertainty about the right choice?
R: They did not. No one sat down and said, well I think you should do this. It was just another situation where they said: here are your options; you could make a case on either side; you go ahead and decide. […] I had tons of information, tons of information but no guidance in like, if it were me, I would do this or I think you should do this. (P011, 64 y, early stage) | |
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Q13: And I remember I called my urologist down in Boston. And he says, it's kind of an opinion. So I felt I was left sort of dangling there and there was nothing I could do to… and I'm certainly not, I don't have the education. To say you know, this is what should be done. (P029, 53 y, advanced) | |
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Q14: R: The doctors are verbally helping me to decide by telling me what's involved in every procedure. So I'm going to make the choice but they're giving me the information to help me do so […] And l I feel that it's my body that's going to be affected; it's that simple. […] I need to know all the options and I need to, in order to get those I need to have professionals tell me them. (P005, 66 y, early stage) | |
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Uncertainty about physician's alignment with patient's perspective
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| Physician does not share patient's uncertainty |
Q16: I: Yeah, so how well was she able to help you deal with the uncertainties that you just mentioned about your future?
R: Well I don't think she really dealt with it other than to say, we're doing the right thing right now, this is the right treatment program. And that was about it.
I: Yeah and that was not enough for you at that point?
R: I don't think it was. (P028, 66 y, advanced) |
Q17: Well, that doctor thought that because my biopsy revealed so little of the cancer in the prostate that I would be the ideal candidate to take the active surveillance route. And just keep monitoring it with occasional blood tests; maybe follow up biopsies. But this is a complicated business; it's very, very complicated, you can't tell how fast the cancer is going to spread and if it'll spread, how fast, whether it will get outside the prostate. There are many things to worry about down the road so I wanted to, I got a second and also third opinion. (P031, 68 y, early stage) |
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Q18: Although when I told her [dr. B.] that I was looking at this clinical trial, she was not particularly encouraging about pursuing that. She said she was perfectly comfortable with me just doing the surveillance. But both my wife and I decided that the opportunity to find out more by being in the clinical trial made a lot of sense to us. (P012, 64 y, early stage) |
| Patient does not share/tolerate physician's expressed uncertainty |
Q19: And indeed this is true of I think most prostate cancer patients and survivors, is that there's a great desire to have an idea of what kind of future you'll have. You know 5 y, 3 y, 2 y or is it 10 y? And the doctors, it puts them on the spot and they really can't say. (P017, 72 y, advanced) | |
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Q20: I: And so how have the doctors that you've talked to influenced your uncertainty about this whole decision?
R: I don't really, you know. I don't really think they've made it worse; I think you know dr. B, my own urologist, after coming out and seeing him and everything, I think he was the most positive; you know he seemed the most reassuring to me that either way, you know the surgery or the radiation, I'm going to get to see my grandkids grow up and, you know, it's just a bump in the road. (P034, 52 y, early stage) | |