| Literature DB >> 36172417 |
Terrance Peng1, Albert J Farias2, Kimberly A Shemanski1, Anthony W Kim1, Sean C Wightman1, Scott M Atay1, Robert J Canter3, Elizabeth A David1.
Abstract
Objective: This qualitative study sought to uncover factors that influence decisions to offer curative-intent surgery for patients with advanced-stage (stage IIIB/IV) non-small cell lung cancer.Entities:
Keywords: NSCLC, non–small cell lung cancer; ThORN, Thoracic Surgery Outcomes Research Network; disparities; multidisciplinary; qualitative; surgical decision-making
Year: 2022 PMID: 36172417 PMCID: PMC9510805 DOI: 10.1016/j.xjon.2022.04.035
Source DB: PubMed Journal: JTCVS Open ISSN: 2666-2736
Characteristics of cardiothoracic surgeon interview participants
| Characteristics | n (%) |
|---|---|
| Participants (total) | 27 (100) |
| Age, y | |
| <35 | 1 (3.7) |
| 35-50 | 18 (66.7) |
| >51 | 8 (29.6) |
| Sex | |
| Male | 15 (55.6) |
| Female | 12 (44.4) |
| Years in practice | |
| 0-10 | 13 (48.2) |
| >10-20 | 10 (37.0) |
| >20-30 | 3 (11.1) |
| >30 | 1 (3.7) |
| Practice type | |
| Academic | 18 (66.7) |
| Mixed | 2 (7.4) |
| Other | 7 (25.9) |
| National Comprehensive Cancer Network | |
| Member institution | 10 (37.0) |
| Nonmember institution | 17 (63.0) |
| Clinical focus | |
| General thoracic | 23 (85.2) |
| Nongeneral thoracic | 4 (14.8) |
| Tumor board attendance | |
| Weekly | 21 (77.8) |
| Biweekly | 4 (14.8) |
| Monthly | 1 (3.7) |
| Other | 1 (3.7) |
Surgeons’ perceived limitations in treatment guidelines
| Theme 1. Surgeons who make the decision to operate when it deviates from guideline-based recommendations often do so not because they are unaware of them, but rather because they disagree with or recognize the limitations of these guidelines. | |
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| Interpretation | Examples |
| NCCN guidelines may not reflect all options for surgical management of patients with advanced-stage NSCLC. | “Nine out of ten times, I think we're offering guideline-concordant care. It's when the patient comes in with a scenario that [is] a little bit unusual or doesn't fit into [an] established treatment paradigm where we get away from using NCCN guidelines.” |
| “In general, the NCCN guidelines […] are very well thought out […] For the most part, I try to follow guidelines as much as I can. You know, no doubt there are times where you know they are guidelines, so they're not the rule or the law—so you still have to have your clinical judgment.” | |
| “I think that most patients should be treated with guideline-concordant care. They're very well thought out evidence-based guidelines. That said, not everyone fits into a nice little category all the time where you can say, ‘You have X, you get Y, and your outcome is going to be Z.’” | |
| “I used to sit on the NCCN, so I was part of the folks that made those guidelines […] In general, I think they are reasonable guidelines to follow. There's a lot of nuance about the construction of these guidelines. I mean, most of them are recommendations from […] groups that treat a lot of cancer, so it's not unreasonable, but they're guidelines—they're not something that's set in stone.” | |
Interview responses revealed that surgeons perform nonguideline concordant operations with acknowledgement of NCCN guideline limitations. This theme is supported by quotes from participant interviews. NCCN, National Comprehensive Cancer Network; NSCLC, non–small cell lung cancer.
Surgeons are more open to performing controversial resections under protocol
| Theme 2. Surgeons indicate they would be open to operating on patients for whom they would not offer surgery if a relevant clinical trial protocol were available. | |
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| Interpretation | Examples |
| Surgeons feel more justified performing nonevidence-based resections in the context of a clinical trial protocol. | “I would say we don't know there's benefit; there's no data to show that. We don't know that there isn't, but that's where I can't justify doing it off protocol. If I had a protocol and if that was something like an envelope we were trying to push or at least we were trying to study, […] I would have offered it to her in a heartbeat, but we don't. And so, I couldn't justify doing that […] It would be, on some level, a malpractice because it's not standard of care.” |
| “I would say that the recommended treatment is chemotherapy alone and that surgery would not routinely be used. […] [I would consider] surgical intervention only on a study protocol, so that it’s not being done in a cowboy fashion—but actually advancing our understanding and knowledge while potentially providing him some benefit but with no guarantees.” | |
| “I might even contemplate [surgical resection] if she had multi-station N2 disease […] Assuming that the mediastinal disease is now negative […] I think it's totally justifiable to do it under protocol, but we don't have such a protocol here. So, I don't think it's justifiable for me to do it out of protocol.” | |
| “By NCCN guidelines, this patient is not a surgical candidate for resection or for cure. There is a novel therapy […] under a protocol, we would do a right lower lobectomy, do a pleurectomy, and do a hyperthermic pleural lavage […] There's very little data on that. There have actually been a couple of studies that were actually negative, but it is probably the only therapy that has any chance at all of giving this young man a chance at survival.” | |
Interview responses revealed that surgeons feel more comfortable performing controversial resections under a clinical trial protocol. This theme is supported by quotes from participant interviews. NCCN, National Comprehensive Cancer Network.
Surgeons perceive incomplete understanding of surgical scope among nonsurgeon physicians
| Theme 3. Surgeons believe surgery is often not considered as a treatment option due to an overestimation of surgical morbidity or incomplete understanding of surgical capabilities among colleagues in other disciplines. | |
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| Interpretation | Examples |
| Surgeons believe they need to educate nonsurgical colleagues regarding patients' true surgical candidacy. | “There are other oncologists who never ever send patients to us, even ones that—had we seen them—we would have said that they were surgical candidates. They thought that they knew what a good surgical candidate was and preferred to make that decision for us so that we didn't hurt their patients by doing surgery.” |
| “A lot of it is educating the group about what is surgically possible […] It takes a surgeon to really say that, ‘This, I can take out. That, I can't take out.’ To have the radiation oncologist or the medical oncologist or the pulmonologist making that decision basically undertreats a lot of patients because they overestimate the morbidity of surgery.” | |
| “Particularly in the stage 3 and 4 patients, I think a lot of those patients get treated with chemotherapy and radiation […] without a surgeon's opinion […] Surgeons are [commonly] not involved in the decision-making for stage 3 and 4 patients unless there's a specific question—it's identified by an oncologist or radiation oncologist that maybe we should get surgery to see it. In that case, it's harder to control because then you have to educate your medical oncologist and radiation oncologist.” | |
| “There's nothing more frustrating than having a patient be told that they're not a surgical candidate by their primary care doctor or their medical oncologist […] There's that level of understanding about the nuances of lung surgery that those people have no concept about […] There's those nuances that I think academic surgeons may have a better handle on.” | |
Interview responses revealed that surgeons believe therapeutic resection is underused often due to an inaccurate understanding among nonsurgeon colleagues regarding surgical capabilities or expected morbidity. This theme is supported by quotes from participant interviews.
Surgeons consider the impact of surgical decisions on professional relationships
| Theme 4. When deciding if they will offer surgery, surgeons consider not only the risks and benefits for the patient at hand, but how this decision will impact professional trust and relationships with their colleagues. | |
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| Interpretation | Examples |
| Surgeons are reluctant to perform controversial resections that may compromise the trust colleagues have in them. | “Part of dealing with that is making good decisions about who we operate on and not thinking that we can get anybody through anything, because that's obviously not true. I would say if people know that about you, then they are much more willing to have the conversation about the benefit of the patient instead of being constantly focused on the surgical risk to the patient.” |
| “One of my mentors was […] definitely a proponent of offering people radical surgery because he felt they didn't have other options […] Certainly, I think that that thinking can get you into trouble […] I think other surgeons might feel that I was being reckless or risky […] Some med-onc providers I think would be concerned that I would be ‘killing their patients’.” | |
| “If you are careful in your assessment and you are clear […] about the elements that were considered in your decision-making as far as whether they could be operated on or not—and you document your conversation with the patient well—I think people begin to trust that you are using evidence […] and patient-specific variables to make those decisions. It's going to be a much more collaborative process and you will be able to participate in a broader spectrum of patients because they'll trust that you'll do the right thing as far as understanding if the patient is too risky or not.” | |
| “In a situation where you have a surgeon that operates on everyone who walks through their door with little discrimination as to who is appropriate or not, I think the medical and radiation oncologists will begin to filter who they actually let get to your door.” | |
Interview responses revealed that surgeons reflect on the potential effects on professional relationships when considering a controversial resection. This theme is supported by quotes from participant interviews. Med-onc, Medical oncology.
Surgeons contend with emotional pressure to offer resection
| Theme 5. Even when they believe resection will offer no benefit, surgeons face pressure to offer surgery to preserve hope for patients who view it as a favorable treatment option and/or those that have no therapeutic alternatives. | |
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| Interpretation | Examples |
| Deciding not to offer surgery can cause significant emotional burden for surgeons. | “You don't want him to die, but you can't operate on him […] It's just the worst thing because you can't be on his team […] You can't save him with your scalpel […] You feel like a limp noodle, like the most impotent, helpless feeling in the world.” |
| “For the most part, patients view surgery relatively favorably […] It can be quite psychologically devastating to patients when you say, ‘you're not a candidate for surgery because you're just medically unfit’ or ‘I think surgery is not going to help you.’” | |
| “Sometimes there are things where you say, ‘I don't really feel good about this. I don't think it's a good idea. The evidence is kind of pointing me away from doing it’—but you would not necessarily be […] classified as being engaging in egregious professional practices for doing it. So, you have that: Based on the evidence and experience, it's probably not a good idea. To what extent will a patient's desires—after explaining everything—push you in one direction or another?” | |
| “When she woke up from her [mediastinoscopy], she knew immediately because she didn't have any chest pain [that] she didn't have the resection. Literally spent the entire rest of the day […] crying with her. She was bawling and kept screaming at me to take it out. But I mean, I honestly debated doing it […] because it was [so] heart-wrenching.” | |
Interview responses revealed that surgeons are often pressured to offer surgical resection for patients for whom there is no expected therapeutic benefit. This theme is supported by quotes from participant interviews.
Figure 1Surgical decision-making for patients with advanced-stage non–small cell lung cancer is influenced by a complex network of factors.