| Literature DB >> 35799224 |
Mattias Strand1,2.
Abstract
BACKGROUND: Rock climbing is an antigravitational sport in which a low body weight may intuitively seem beneficial. A small number of studies have found an increased prevalence of disordered eating among adolescent and adult climbers. However, to date there has been no qualitative research into the attitudes towards disordered eating and body image in the rock climbing community.Entities:
Keywords: Anorexia nervosa; Body image; Bulimia nervosa; Eating disorders; Sports medicine
Year: 2022 PMID: 35799224 PMCID: PMC9264506 DOI: 10.1186/s40337-022-00619-5
Source DB: PubMed Journal: J Eat Disord ISSN: 2050-2974
Examples of forum comments for the theme "Is there a problem?"
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| 1a. Yes, the problem exists | I've visited numerous climbing crags all over Europe and everywhere I notice girls looking sick due to low weight and skipping meals before and after a hard climb. Perhaps some of the people commenting here see this as the standard build for climbers, so that they don't even think of them as being anorexic. They would most likely consider me fat. I believe many people aren't aware of anorexia and how risky it is. |
| Me and my friend are actually pretty appalled by the recent metamorphosis of certain elite climbers, in the [two specific nations] teams in particular. This wouldn't be such a major problem if there were systematic attempts to detect this at the professional level (such as BMI limits or blood sampling). Since there aren't, I'm just wondering “why the hell is no one commenting on the fact that these climbers went from healthy looking to skeletons in just a year?” | |
| I've belonged to several different athletic communities, and I'd say that weight obsession is in fact more common among climbers. This typically leads to unhealthy and potentially hazardous lifestyle changes that might not even bring about any real benefits. | |
| 1b. Nah, it's not that big a deal | Do some climbers obsess about weight in an unhealthy way? Sure. Do some climbers even try to become underweight in order to boost performance? Sure. Still, if you add these two groups together, they wouldn't even make up ten percent of the climbing community. |
| Where can you find all of those "anorectic" climbers? I never run into them. If you truly were anorectic, you couldn't even muster the strength to climb [an easy route] and performing at pro level would be unthinkable. People who are skinny will always exist, because of genetics and healthy habits I suppose | |
| A lot of climbers put more energy into warning about weight obsession than into just discussing what is actually optimal for performance. To perform at peak level, you need to adhere to some unhealthy habits whether you like it or not and that's the same in all sports. Just being honest about that and not treating people like they're children would be nice. Let us decide for ourselves what we do with the information. | |
| 1c. Disordered eating was more common in the past | The whole idea that eating cauliflower will make you climb harder is an 80s thing. It only makes you sound old and out of touch when you say shit like that. |
| Eating disorders aren't fashionable anymore. Even though climbers' bodies differ a lot (for example, compare [two elite climbers]), modern professional climbers are usually bulkier, have more muscles, and look far less unhealthy. It seems to me that "athletic" has replaced "famine-victim skinny". Still, climbers are better now than ever. | |
| There used to be a rumour in the early 1980s that a top UK climber had anorexia. People were saying that he was so weak from undernourishment that he actually had to be carried to the climbing crag. In those days, climbing was more about endurance than now. |
Examples of forum comments for the theme "Subjective experiences"
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| 2a. Personal experiences of disordered eating | I lost a few pounds last year, and even though I wish I could say I did it in a healthy way, it actually turned into an eating disorder. For a brief period of time I did climb slightly harder, but after that honeymoon phase I was just tired and freezing and getting injured all the time. I'm glad I turned it around in time |
| People say I have the 'perfect' climber body and it makes me so mad. My weight is below 50 kg. Why? Because I ate too little and I never went through puberty as I should have. I still struggle with disordered eating. Your ideal body weight should be a weight that you can maintain and feel good about without restricting your food intake. We need to put a stop to this idea that you climb harder if you weigh less. Increasing the 'strength to weight' ratio by dieting is easy but foolish. What you should be doing is increasing your strength. | |
| Perhaps some of you will not like what I'm going to say but… You're only 15, you shouldn't be dieting. I was also into team sports and tried to lose weight. It can be done in a healthy way but since climbing is a very competitive sport and team mates aren't always thinking about your well-being, it's SUPER easy to lose control. For me, it led to an eating disorder. So yes, it MAY be helpful, but in the end you should prioritize eating healthy and things will turn out great. You're 15 years old, its ok if your diet isn't perfect. The biggest threat would be to develop anorexia | |
| 2b. Friends or relatives had disordered eating | I think the reason why some of us are objecting is that many of us know climbers who just wanted to lose a little weight in order to climb harder, and then it spiraled out of control and they ended up with an eating disorder. It's certainly possible to reach 6% body fat in a controlled way, some athletes do it, but you should be aware of the risks. |
| Just watch out. My sister was like you a few years ago–training all the time and being super fuzzy about her diet. She's now in intensive care in [a British] hospital with severe anorexia nervosa, and she has had to drop out of university. At the moment, she can't even walk up a flight of stairs, and climbing anything is out the question. You think you won't lose control but it's so easy to slip. | |
| I'm worried about my friend going on this climbing trip. He had bulimia last year, now he has anorexia and is severely underweight. He's signed up for an advanced-level climbing course next month and the organizers don't know anything about his disordered eating. My biggest fear is that he will simply collapse on the wall and hurt himself, or worse. | |
| 2c. Body image issues | If you already have body image issues, my experience is that climbing can make them worse. I've never felt good about my looks, then I started cycling, and then climbing, two sports where being light is an advantage so that wasn't very helpful. When I become more fit I also become more obsessive, it seems. I look at other people climbing and everyone has like this perfect athletic build… and in contrast, I have love handles flopping over the climbing harness. If I couldn't do a certain move (or succeed in a cycling race) I'd blame my weight and swear that I would lose a couple of pounds more. |
| Yes, it's definitely a problem. I was in this group of climbers and the girls would constantly be on social media, commenting on and fat-shaming other climber women. Of course, they did it because they were insecure. I think they looked at climbing like elitist rather than inclusive, and when they felt that they weren't as strong or as popular as others, they would turn to gossiping and criticizing in order to be accepted by their pro-click. To me, it felt like something out of a high school drama and sooo toxic. I made sure to find other climbing friends quick. How come climbing affects people this way when it really should be an inclusive and positive activity? | |
| Body image ONLY becomes a thing for me when I see all these HOT climbing gear—that clearly doesn't fit me. [Climbing gear brand] especially—I can barely fit into their size L… their clothes are just TINY! Stuff like this makes me wonder If I simply have the "WRONG" body for climbing. | |
| 2d. Thin-shaming | Also, I'm thinly built but far from anorexic, and it’s so annoying when other climbers assume that I have some sort of mental disorder and starve myself intentionally! |
| I am climber and I am very skinny. I've always been thin: when I was a child, when I didn't climb, when I was into other sports, when it didn't do any sports at all—always tall and super skinny. This was never due to an eating disorder. I've never adhered to any diet. I eat whatever I feel like. I've seen a doctor multiple times, but nothing's wrong with me. I guess it's just in my genes. People often tell me that I climb hard because I am skinny. They'll say that those pro climbers all have anorexia and that's why they're so strong. And sure, that may be true for some of them. Many of them, perhaps. But certainly not all. Some of us just have a fast metabolism by nature and gain strength from training hard and being mindful about what we eat. When you say that this or that strong and skinny climber you see at the crag must have an eating disorder, you're being judgmental and insulting when in reality they just put a lot of hard work in. | |
| I was once lucky enough to stay with a top-level climber for a few weeks. He would probably be considered very skinny by most and some might even see him and think he's malnourished. Truth is he ate more than I did. Huge enchiladas, fast food, and also lots of healthy food too. I weighed 30 or 40 pounds more than him even though I was only slightly taller, and most would think I'm skinny. Bottom line, there's really no way of telling if someone eats too little unless you actually spend time together. Some people are just gifted with the right genes and don't gain weight. |
Examples of forum comments for the theme "How and why is weight an issue?"
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| 3a. A low weight is clearly beneficial | Light people climb better. I didn't come up with that, it's Sir Newton back in the day:-) |
| Body weight may not be the most critical issue, but it sure as hell helps and if you say it doesn’t you're a liar. You can pay more attention to your technique if you take off that 10 kg weight vest. | |
| Legs are dead weight and so we don't train them. Leg muscles will not help you climb better, so training your legs and gaining muscle weight will only be a disadvantage. | |
| 3b. A low weight is not that important | Dropping weight isn't the one and only way of getting better at climbing. As a matter of fact, as long as you become a stronger climber, any additional weight is good. If you're already skinny, this holds true even more. Going thin as a skeleton won’t help you climb [extremely hard routes]. Having enough muscle and technique to master the necessary body positions will. As a 95 kg climber who’s [climbed advanced routes], there is absolutely no reason to say you can’t be heavier and still climb hard. |
| Fat people climb better than I do. Thin people climb better than I do. The reason? They are better climbers, period. It has nothing to do with their body weight. It would be much more useful for you to focus on improving your footwork, your flexibility, and doing some [finger training] instead of only obsessing about your weight. | |
| Gained 5 lbs over Christmas from just eating whatever I wanted. Yesterday I had the best climbing session in a long while. You shouldn't get hung up on your weight. Where you're at mentally and physically is so much more relevant. | |
| 3c. Losing weight may have negative consequences | [Elite climber] talked about this. He previously cut weight before competitions but quit doing it. He said it made him weak, low on power and energy. He thinks he does much better in competitions when he makes sure to eat healthy and maintains a healthy weight. |
| I agree, why would you want to lose weight? Your energy levels will go down, you'll limit your strength/power, you'll damage your immune system—is it really worth it just to lose a little weight and feel marginally lighter when you climb? Not for me it isn't. I've been climbing hard for many years and every time I tried to cut weight for the sake of performance, all that happened is that I felt weaker. | |
| My joints are much, much more prone to injuries when I drop to a low weight and body fat percentage. | |
| 3d. Balance between losing weight and losing muscle | Contrary to what some say, it is really difficult to lose weight by restricting your calorie intake and not also lose muscle while doing it. And then when you have lost muscle mass, it is going to be a LOT harder to gain it back than what it was to lose it. I am now 9 lbs lighter than I used to be a couple of years ago, when I was at my strongest and could manage one-arm pull-ups on both arms. Now I'm nowhere near being able to do that, and my strength-to-weight ratio is not as good either. |
| At this point, I could mostly lose weight in the form of muscle mass. It makes me wonder if it's reasonable to keep on losing weight (I might lose some weight but also lose strength because of muscle atrophy). | |
| The thing is, a lot of climbers are already fairly skinny but still choose to maintain a deficit (or a sort of down-regulated mode) just because they're afraid to gain weight. And when you're in a deficit, you just don't gain much strength. Your strength can keep on improving year after year for decades, but with weight loss you hit a ceiling–you can only get lighter to a certain point and then there's not much more to gain. | |
| 3e. Climbing helps with body image | I've also noticed that when I climb or hike, I concentrate more on the way my body functions and not so much on how it "looks". As a matter of fact, I'm actively involved in introducing outdoor activities in the treatment program of a local eating disorder clinic just because I feel it's so helpful. |
| Whenever I see other women climbing, I'm so inspired and impressed by how POWERFUL and cool and awesome these girls are! Actually, I'm sure you look amazing. Might take some time to get used to it though. I just got rid of my favorite shirt because I simply cannot button it around my forearms any longer. Too bad! Still, it's an incredible feeling to be strong and able (who cares if my tiny clothes don't fit anymore) so just keep it up! | |
| Anyone can become a good climber, no matter what body shape mother nature gave us. That's one of the beautiful things about climbing. You can focus on what works for you and build on that, which is precisely why climbing is so much more than just a sport. |
Examples of forum comments for the theme "The importance of context"
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| 4a. Trad climbing is different | your typical trad climber has a beard and a beer belly, brings a six pack to the crag and eats roast dinners. forget about sprouts and vitamin water. |
| Anorexic soy boys in tight jeans, shirts off but beanies and "ironic" moustaches on, kombucha-in-a-jar-sipping, vegan-protein-bar-munching mf's getting their asses whooped by routes that my 10 year old daughter uses for warming up | |
| There are definitely those anorectic guys who climb hard as fuck but if they tried to, say, lift a kettle bell their arms would just snap. Put them on [a glacier route] during the winter and they'll freeze to death. | |
| 4b. Weight less important in bouldering | A low body weight has more impact on sport/route climbing than on bouldering. You see that in comp climbing too. Boulder problems usually involve more raw power and getting pumped really isn't that big of an issue. |
| Could it be that bouldering has become more popular as a discipline in its own right? Climbing used to be all about being light and having maximum finger strength. Nowadays people just power their way up indoor boulder problems and leanness is not so important. | |
| I've been climbing for decades in this country and elsewhere and I've always found bouldering very inclusive. Be it [indoor climbing center] in the 1990s or [another indoor climbing centre] today, boulderers come in all shapes and sizes and seem to get along no matter what……… and just enjoy themselves. In my experience, lead walls tend to be less inclusive. A friend of mine was never really comfortable climbing at one of the local “big “ walls even though he's [an advanced climber], but he could never quite put his finger on why he felt that way. Just something in the air I guess. | |
| 4c. Weight cycling to improve performance | In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with cutting some weight when a big competition is coming up or when you're trying to climb a route at your limit. |
| You should train at a healthy maintenance weight so that you feel alright and have enough calories to build muscle, then cut a few kgs just before you really want to perform well. | |
| During off-season, I eat chocolate and cheese and whatever and when spring is coming up I just quit. This allows me to train with weight during the winter and then lose it when sport climbing season approaches. | |
| 4d. Pressure on young climbers | I find it really disturbing whenever I see parents or coaches who encourage kids to drop weight with the purpose of becoming a better climber. They truly ought to know better. It's so important to create a sound training environment and a healthy outlook on food and diet for young athletes. As adults it is our responsibility to promote this. |
| We shouldn't overemphasize winning in youth athletics. When I ended up on the podium in a climbing comp, I immediately felt more appreciated by my team mates and I received more attention from the coaches. Now as an adult I notice this all the time. We're told that winning is what really matters, we're ready to sacrifice in order to keep on winning and to remain relevant. Unfortunately, this may also include compromising our health and putting our bodies at risk. | |
| Risk assessment and risk minimization is a natural part of climbing, so it seems reasonable to extend that awareness to other areas of our sport besides actually ascending a wall. For me, it is obvious that we should not take cultural influences on body ideals lightly, especially if we see that common approaches to coaching may in fact push kids into eating disorder territory. I have mixed feelings about children in competitive athletics in general, but I do know for certain that we as adults and coaches must protect kids from trauma. It is great to teach kids how to take a fall and try again—dedication and grit will undoubtedly be useful in all areas of life. However, it is not so great to encourage an all or nothing attitude in young climbers. | |
| 4e. Remembering reasons for climbing | I agree that climbing outdoors in a fabulous setting with friendly people is, as far as I have experienced, at its core profoundly therapeutic and soothing for body and soul. |
| Considering the strong focus on beautiful bodies in climbing media, as well as the transformation of climbing culture from experience-based to performance-based, it is hardly surprising if climbers suffer from body image issues and disordered eating. | |
| Just enjoy being on the wall. They say the number one climber is the person having the most fun! |
Examples of forum comments for the theme "What can be done?"
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| 5. What can be done? | I never said that all gym staff must be trained to identify and intervene with clients with eating disorder. What I did say is that staff members should have a general understanding of eating disorders and know who clients can contact if they need help. It could be the [eating disorder patient charity] website, a local GP, a local therapist. The way I see it, it's not intrusive if gym staff ask someone if they have talked to their GP about nutrition. That's what they'd do if a client complained about shoulder pain or something like that, right? Mental health shouldn't be any different. |
| I'm worried that someone who might already have problems with self-esteem or whatever would just feel worse if a stranger at the gym approached them and commented on their weight. Of course, if you know them you should absolutely say something, but be aware that once you get involved in helping someone with their mental health problems, you must be prepared to stick with them for the long-term if you truly want to be an ally. | |
| I would suggest that you engage older climbers—it could be pro climbers or just someone at the gym who's really talented—as role models for the kids. You should frame it as something that they want to do in order to improve their game, rather than just being about diet rules that don't make any sense to them. | |
| BMI is actually a useful indicator of disordered eating, at least in the lower range. If you're very lean and you worry about wrongfully being called an anorexic, perhaps you should pay attention to your BMI and think about if it's really healthy. Sure, I agree that BMI shouldn't be used on its own to bar someone from competing in climbing… but it can be a good screening tool, obviously. In most cases, I don't think it'll be that difficult to either confirm or discard an anorexia nervosa diagnosis. | |
| As long as organizers keep allowing these "living skeletons" to take as long as they need to climb a route, the race towards lower weights will continue. If they would instead introduce time limits, make sure that routes favor "powerful" moves and that they aren't too lengthy, climbers will simply have to embrace behaviors that keep them strong and healthy. | |
| So you've seen someone out there who seems to be on the wrong track?! Give them a hand–show them what climbing should be all about |