| Literature DB >> 35310603 |
Karolina Schantz1, Elisa J Gordon2, Unsun Lee3, Maria Rocha4, John Friedewald2, Daniela P Ladner2, Yolanda Becker5, Richard Formica6, Peter P Reese7, Dixon Kaufman8, Masoud Barah1, Marissa Walker1, Om Mehrotra9, Dania Viveros9, Sanjay Mehrotra1.
Abstract
Procurement biopsies suffer from challenges with quality and reproducibility and are linked to kidney discard. Nonetheless, procurement biopsies are obtained for the majority of kidneys in the United States, and biopsy findings are commonly relied upon in kidney acceptance decisions.Entities:
Year: 2022 PMID: 35310603 PMCID: PMC8923604 DOI: 10.1097/TXD.0000000000001299
Source DB: PubMed Journal: Transplant Direct ISSN: 2373-8731
Participant demographics
| Category | N (%) |
|---|---|
| Specialty | |
| Surgeon | 9 (30) |
| Nurse | 8 (27) |
| Organ procurement organization | 7 (23) |
| Nephrologist | 6 (20) |
| Gender | |
| Male | 16 (53) |
| Female | 14 (47) |
| Race | |
| White | 22 (73) |
| Asian | 4 (13) |
| African American or Black | 2 (7) |
| Other | 2 (7) |
| Ethnicity | |
| Not Hispanic or Latino | 25 (83) |
| Hispanic or Latino | 5 (17) |
| Organ Procurement and Transplantation Network region | |
| Region 1 | 2 (7) |
| Region 2 | 3 (10) |
| Region 3 | 3 (10) |
| Region 4 | 2 (7) |
| Region 5 | 5 (17) |
| Region 6 | 2 (7) |
| Region 7 | 5 (17) |
| Region 8 | 2 (7) |
| Region 9 | 2 (7) |
| Region 10 | 2 (7) |
| Region 11 | 2 (7) |
| Clinician y of experience | |
| <10 | 6 (26) |
| 10–20 | 10 (44) |
| >20 | 7 (30) |
| Clinician center volume (kidney transplants/y) | |
| <100 | 3 (13) |
| 100–199 | 7 (30) |
| ≥200 | 13 (57) |
Representative illustrative quotations
| Physician quotes | Organ procurement organization staff quotes | Nurse quotes |
|---|---|---|
| Theme 1: lack of standardization and quality control | ||
| “... sometimes we have to, the biopsies are kind of unclear and are even good looking but the history is so extensive that we cannot completely rely on the biopsy that is done outside so we have to rereview the biopsy and rebiopsy whatever it is.” (participant 32, male, surgeon)“... the biopsies that are done well and read by renal pathologists here and that we could look at ourselves don’t really correlate well with the biopsies done elsewhere.” (participant 43, male, surgeon) | “... the kidney once it arrived at its destination, that center rebiopsied and obtained a different result. And now at that point, I mean, to me, it’s like, well, you have 2, how do you weigh them? Right, but obviously, there they went by their new biopsy result, and the kidney was discarded.” (participant 62, male, OPO staff) | “... the biopsy made no sense. So, then we actually asked our OPO if they can take the slides and send it to the pathologist they usually use for the OPO. And then he reread it there and had a totally different reading, but some that was more consistent. We’ve also wised up to figure out you know what type of pathologist is reading this biopsy, because there’s a lot of discrepancies between pathologists and their reads.” (participant 47, female, nurse)“So one of the primary concerns that we always have is that if a biopsy of a kidney has been done at a rural hospital in somewhere that’s nowhere near a transplant center in the middle of the night, then the pathologist probably has to come and do it again anyway, and the sample’s got 20 cells or less. I mean, like what are we really looking at here?” (participant 57, female, nurse) |
| Theme 2: variations between centers and physicians in terms of reliance on biopsy, how they use glomerulosclerosis and what cutoffs, if any, they use | ||
| “So, you know if I think the organ is really marginal and I’m uncertain that it’s transplantable and the biopsy comes back pretty good, then I’m happy and I’ll use that biopsy favorably. But if all the other data is positive and something that I would transplant without a biopsy and the biopsy comes back and I’m you know I don’t think that it truly represents um what is a quality kidney then I ignore the biopsy.” (participant 31, male, surgeon)“We always rely on the biopsy. It’s critical. As seen from the 3 parameters, forget about the KDPI and biopsy is the most important one because it’s the kidney tissue and tells us about the prognosis.” (participant 46, male, surgeon) | “... our kind of magical number where it becomes more difficult with biopsies is less than 20 percent. If it’s greater than 20 percent, we have glomerulosclerosis count greater than 20 percent is when we start seeing a lot of transplant centers starting to code out.” (participant 61, male, OPO staff) | “... it’s generally the final creatinine and how it got there, but also then the end-all is the pathology from the biopsy.” (participant 44, female, nurse)“So cold ischemic time and glomerulosclerosis percentage greater than um 12 or 15 I think are automatically rule-outs.” (participant 34, male, nurse)“You want glomerulosclerosis less than 20% and no necrosis on the biopsy, and no diabetic changes.” (participant 53, female, nurse) |
| Theme 3: disagreement about when to biopsy and whether or not the use of procurement biopsies should be limited to reduce discard | ||
| “My personal take on this is that I think biopsies are being used to rule out kidneys, and I think we should be using them to rule in kidneys. So we should be using biopsies in a small minority of cases, where we are concerned about the kidney quality enough based on clinical characteristics that we’re looking for a reason to use the kidney.” (participant 51, male, nephrologist)“Not ask for a biopsy? I would say KDPI less than 50 with normal creatinine. Then I would be surprised to print out a biopsy. I would be happy to look at it if we did, but, you know, the better the kidney, the less the biopsy is useful.” (participant 41, female, nephrologist)“I only use a biopsy to rule in an organ that is really marginal. I try and avoid when I have the option to for a local donor to get a biopsy altogether. Because I think the biopsies are you know, sort of overcall and over influence the desire to discard an organ.” (participant 31, male, surgeon) | “... they’ll request a biopsy and we rarely turn down a request to biopsy, so we don’t have specific biopsy criteria, because our centers are requesting it.” (participant 48, female, OPO staff)“... over the age of 60, if they’re DCD over the age of 50, history of stroke or cause of death is stroke, history of hypertension, an elevated creatinine greater than 1.5, history of kidney disease, sometimes there may be like a mention that there’s some type of kidney disease, but their function doesn’t reflect that. So usually we’ll biopsy any anatomical abnormality or mass, and sometimes just by transplant center preference, because they just requested to due to their own guidelines, we typically do it.” (participant 56, female, OPO staff)“I think they definitely impact most of our kidney discard. I just looked at our year to date data and um almost all of them were due to biopsy results.” (participant 48, female, OPO staff) | “... so one of the strategies that we’ve tried to kind of be all on the same page about is staying in the game a little bit longer, and if the OPO is willing to pump or biopsy don’t just code out based upon, you know, the donor’s creatinine, or the presence of diabetes or age, let’s wait till we have a little bit more information. And I think that has helped us because there have been some kidneys that sound really bad on paper but then when the kidneys come out the biopsy looks good, they are pumping really well, the visualization looks good and we’ve had great success with those.” (participant 47, female, nurse)“we actually go back and look at all the biopsies because we want to focus on “are we throwing away kidneys that could be transplanted?” and so we have different pathologists, we are trying to get, like one consistent pathologist that reviews all of our biopsies so that we don’t have the randomization of different pathologists and different readings and so, we do that as a control to see if we are throwing away kidneys that we shouldn’t be.” (participant 44, female, nurse) |
DCD, donation after circulatory death; KDPI, kidney donor profile index; OPO, organ procurement organization.