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Victoria Salem1, Dhruti Hirani2, Clare Lloyd3, Lesley Regan4, Christopher J Peters4.
Abstract
OBJECTIVES: To identify factors that influenced women who chose to leave academic medicine. DESIGN AND MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Independent consultants led a focus group of women in medicine who had left academia after completion of their postgraduate research degree at Imperial College London Faculty of Medicine. Thematic analysis was performed on the transcribed conversations. PARTICIPANTS ANDEntities:
Keywords: EDUCATION & TRAINING (see Medical Education & Training); MEDICAL EDUCATION & TRAINING; QUALITATIVE RESEARCH
Mesh:
Year: 2022 PMID: 35672065 PMCID: PMC9174775 DOI: 10.1136/bmjopen-2021-057847
Source DB: PubMed Journal: BMJ Open ISSN: 2044-6055 Impact factor: 3.006
The focus group guide—predetermined questions to guide participant discussion which was moderated by external institutional culture consultants
| Experience | What was your overall experience of your time at ICL within your department? |
| What was positive/valuable: what were the opportunities available to you? | |
| What was tricky or difficult: what barriers existed for you? | |
| How does gender relate to the experiences described? | |
| How did these experiences (positive and negative) impact on the career choices you have made? | |
| Institutional and wider academic culture | Do you think the purpose and values of your department were aligned with your own? |
| What would have made it possible/desirable for you to have continued your career at ICL rather than find employment elsewhere? | |
| What needs to change more widely in academic culture to enable women to remain in academia? | |
| Future focused | What do you think would help now to increase the number of women continuing their careers at ICL? |
| (Follow-up—thinking about the experiences described and perspectives on ICL’s culture/culture of academia more widely). |
ICL, Imperial College London.
Clinical specialisms of each participant, the stage they left academia and their current career path.
| Focus group code | Clinical family | Stage of departure from academia | Current career path |
| FG 1 | Specialty within general medicine | After senior lecturer | Industry |
| FG 2 | Specialty within general surgery | Completion of MD | Full-time clinical work (NHS) |
| FG 3 | Specialty within general surgery | Completion of PhD | Full-time clinical work (NHS) |
| FG 4 | Paediatrics | Completion of PhD | Full-time clinical work (NHS) |
| FG 5 | Specialty within general medicine | After completion of clinical lectureship | Full-time clinical work (NHS) |
| FG 6 | Specialty within general medicine | After completion of clinical lectureship | Part-time clinical work (NHS) |
| FG 7 | Specialty within general surgery | After completion of clinical lectureship | Full-time clinical work (NHS) |
| FG 8 | Specialty within general surgery | Completion of PhD | Full-time clinical work (NHS) |
| FG 9 | Specialty within general surgery | Completion of PhD | Full-time clinical work (NHS) |
Data have been kept to a minimum in order to protect anonymity.
NHS, National Health Service.
Quotes by participants divided by identified themes. Focus group codes (i.e., the level and specialty of the contributor) are expanded in table 2
| Environmental and institutional factors | Leadership factors | Individual factors | |||||||
| A. Institutional human resources support | B. Work–life balance | C. Pregnancy and maternity leave | D. Inclusivity | E. Mentors and role models | F. Supervisor support | G. Expectations | H. Career intentions | ||
| 1. FG 6. “Unfortunately, a lot of us end up losing the cumulative years of service that you have done that protects you…” | 1. FG 2. "one of my supervisors said, when I used to try do my exams, I used to come home and say to my wife, take the children upstairs because I am doing my exams. And I’m like “excuse me, but I am the wife….I wish I had a wife.” | 1. FG 7. “I got pregnant 3 months after finishing my PhD and I was thanked for not being pregnant during my PhD…” | 1. FG 2. “…incredible experience…really prestigious…” “ We were like Charlies Angels but a different sort!” | 1. FG 3. “…it wasn’t just a gender thing. I just didn’t see anybody that had the life that I wanted.” | 1. FG 5. “…my supervisor, once again, I was very lucky, they were fantastic, very supportive and helped dragged me through my PhD which I found very difficult…” | 1. FG 2. “…big difference between the surgeons and the psychologists because they would say to us just stay at home, just don’t come in so I never used to go in on a Thursday. But the surgeons would be like ‘What?! You’re not coming in?!’” | 1. FG 9. “…the reason we do it is because everyone else before us did it.” | ||
| 2. FG 7. “Love of the science is not enough when you’re working 50 hours a week plus. You have got to have some compensation.” | 2. FG 4. “…When I do research, I am still going a bit on the side when the kids are into bed and you’re doing it till midnight or 1am. It’s not sustainable, it’s so tiring…” | 2. FG 9. “…a colleague introduced me to a Professor who I went to meet. And the first question he asked me was ‘Was I going to become pregnant?’” | 2. FG 9. “…I haven’t had any overtly negative experience, it’s just that I didn’t fit…” | 2. FG 7. “…most of the time, there is no one to identify with…” | 2. FG 2. “….tough road, a road that you were determined to stay on and having a positive supervisor really assisted that…” | 2. FG 7. “…go meet with Prof now and justify your existence…” | 2. FG 1. “…it was a stepping stone that you were expected to do…you had to do it to get a number…that’s how the system was” | ||
| 3. FG 6. “…your grant goes by the university pay grade and you start at the bottom of the ladder.” | 3. FG 7. “…I don’t think it’s something you can do part time because it is a race. I don’t think you can sprint part-time…” | 3. FG 9. “…you do feel like ‘have I slightly betrayed the trust they’ve put in me by having a baby?’….they have said they don’t like employing women.” | 3. FG 3. “It’s very much a monoclonal environment and it’s a lack of appreciation for anybody that is different to that…” | 3. FG 9. “there are not enough women who are going up in the hierarchy to provide support…” | 3. FG 2. “…we had a very, very nice professor of psychology who supervised our PhD and that’s how we got there…it would have been difficult if I had solely a surgical supervisor…” | 3. FG 1 “…they expect certain things you have to publish, certain number of high impact papers, you have to get a certain amount of money every year…and if you don’t do that, you’re out. There is a human price to it…” | 3. FG 1. “…getting a consultant job, you really had to have some research…it was a path that a lot of people would go through” | ||
| 4. FG 9. “if you don’t get another grant, or you don’t produce the papers, they say see you later…there’s no support…” | 4. FG 5. “…nature of academia doesn’t lend itself to part time staff so easily because you can’t leave it alone…” | 4. FG 4. “…I have had experience where someone said they were going to stop giving grants to women because they get pregnant and don’t do their projects…” | 4. FG 6. “…a need to justify you are the same as male colleagues…” | 4. FG 8. “…not enough women are going into academic positions to be taking leadership.” | 4. FG 4. “…my supervisor was someone that was also involved in clinical training…” | 4. FG 9. “…on paper you go down as part-time when you are actually doing a clinical commitment on top…trying to do a clinical post a week and still meeting your deadlines for your research is actually quite tough…” | 4. FG 2. “I did have an idea that I will become a lecturer, a senior lecturer, a professor one day…” | ||
| 5. FG 3. “…there is no one you can go to if you felt undermined or bullied or overtly discriminated against because of the choices you made…” | 5. FG 5. “…it’s always there, there’s always papers to write, always stuff to do. I couldn’t switch off.” | 5. FG 7. “…In my cohort, there were two girls who got pregnant and weren’t allowed to do PhDs. One was told that their quality of work was poor but she got an independent adjudicator who said it was fine…” | 5. FG 9. “…I didn’t want to work with someone who sees me as a baby machine…” | 5. FG 8. “…we don’t have enough women who are co-supporters of other women, and that goes for even at consultant’s position.” | 5. FG 8. “…very rarely do you find a supervisor that actually sympathises with not just having a baby or pregnancy, but having a child by yourself, running around looking after a child, doing school drop-offs and pick ups…” | 5. FG 6. “…you can be there for hours and no-one asks ‘don’t you have a kid to go back to?’ and if you don’t keep up, you’re out…” | 5. FG 1. “…I had gone into medicine thinking that I would be more research driven than clinical but turned out to be the complete reverse…” | ||
| 6. FG 8. “the advice is to always stay off the radar, work hard, keep your head down…everybody would counsel you against raising an issue” | 6. FG 5. “…academic work spill over a lot more into my personal life, more than I was willing to let…” | 6. FG 4. “I did collect my data and I had a baby and I had time off. I was told I was taking too long…” | 6. FG 7. “what I found with the ……MDT… list…they’ll have all the consultants surnames. And there’s one female consultant and her first name and second name will always be put on the sheet. There’s just a little thing of disrespect” | 6. FG 8. “…a lot of my male counterparts had children during their PhD and they too were expected to not have any kind of lull or change in performance….” | 6. FG 1. “…their treatment was approached in a very academic way. It was interesting, we had really interesting grand rounds…I was interested in academia and it got me into it a bit more when I was there…” | ||||
| 7. FG 6. “…perception is that if you bring in a lot of money and you publish a lot, it doesn’t matter how you behave…” | 7. FG 3. “…family circumstances change, there isn’t the flexibility in the department to allow you to change. It’s very rigid…” | 7. FG 6. “ I would never have a male consultant colleague at the…refer me a private patient, rarely. They refer to each other, its like a gang.“ | 7. FG 7. “…when I came back from maternity leave, I did 2 free weeks of work in my hospital. I was scared of being on call as the only surgeon in the building…I totally undermined myself…” | 7. FG 1. “…it wasn’t an active choice …if you were in that place, you seemed to be a hard worker, fairly bright, they would say actually come and do some research with us” | |||||
| 8. FG 5. "…we have all heard tales about people who essentially whistleblow and it never turns out well…Everybody would counsel you against raising an issue." | 8. FG 7. “If you guys scrubbed at the ……one changing room has a male sign on it and says doctors. The female changing rooms says nurses.” | ||||||||
The focus group identified a number of issues that had acted as pushes away from a career in academia for our clinicians who had been associated with Imperial between the years 2006 and 2018. In response to this, Imperial College Faculty of Medicine has funded and developed these initiatives to provide greater support for women in clinical academia.
| ICL Faculty of Medicine Initiatives | |
| Environmental and institutional factors | |
| | Expectation, along with Faculty administrative resource, that all departments aspire to a minimum Silver Athena SWAN award. |
| Inclusivity | Imperial College policy disallow meetings with speakers of a single gender. |
| Pregnancy and maternity | Active promotion of Maternity Leave policy with clear plan for how staff’s academic role will be protected / supported while they are on maternity leave. |
| Leadership factors | |
| | Improved supervisor training to push for consideration of staff’s wider circumstances when discussing research plans, with mandate to refresh this training every 6 years. |
| Mentors and role models | Imperial College Mentor scheme including more targeted mentorship of women clinical academics using mentors from outside Department or Faculty where required. |
| Individual factors | |
| | Funding for the Clinical Academic Training Office—outreach and information days (for junior doctors contemplating a research degree at ICL) always include a talk from a women academic with an opportunity to discuss work life balance. |
| Work life balance/expectations | Better role modelling of family friendly behaviour including actively encouraging staff to adapt working lives to fit childcare needs. |
NHS, National Health Service.