| Theme 1: Impact of restricted visiting |
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| • The visiting process | 1. But by the time I get up to level 1 they are going to screen me again and ask 101 questions … exactly the same questions as the front, and when I'm at ICU I'm like no, I haven't been in contact, I haven't been in contact … no we have to ask you the questions. Like the people at the front just asked …(P.7). |
| 2. I think maybe it was 25 min, so even though it was 1 h, that was from the minute I put my foot in the door at the front … until I got up to ICU. They estimated that it took me ‘x’ amount of time to get up there and then … (P.4). |
| 3. There was one time they cut my visiting down by 15 min because they were going to take him in for a scan and nobody told me and I said can I make up this 15 min tomorrow? She goes ‘no! (P.12). |
| 4. I just felt that one a day you know they had two visiting times, lunchtime and afternoon. If I came in at lunchtime, why couldn't somebody else drop in in the afternoon? But they didn't allow that at all. Once a day only (P.19). |
| 5. They call the bedside nurse to give you a 10-min bell to say that you've got 10 min left. That's my least favourite part to be honest. I think we are all aware that we have 40 min in there … but it doesn't take me 10 min to walk back out of the hospital. It probably takes me a minute and a half … it is quite frustrating when I think you know it just feels like such minimal time … it's just dehumanising. (P.1) |
| 6. I think that they (visiting restrictions) were reasonable. I think we have to be careful with the pandemic and follow whatever restrictions that are in place. It's a matter of public health and being safe and respecting other people. Especially in hospitals where other people have their health conditions … through a pandemic there has to be some rules put down that we have to follow. (P.10). |
| 7. I understand why they are so restricted. I mean it's COVID … but at the same time it's depressing … but I understand why they're doing it at the same time. (P.3) |
| 8. They check your temperature and ask who you are going to see and so forth and that's quite straight forward. Go straight to the lifts and then you're checked on the list for the appointment time … If you're ahead of time you've got to wait well that's understandable and it's just one of those things (P.11). |
| • Separating families | 1. Why should I not be able to sit there and hold her hand? If I was there for 16 h a day and went home to have some sleep, how do I pose to anymore risk that just being there holding her hand? I just can't come at these restrictions, it's not right. (P.13). |
| 2. The operation finished at 1:30 in the morning and the next morning I was there at about 8 o'clock and I couldn't go in because I had no appointment you see so I waited until about 11 before they contacted me and let me in … it was hard for me because you know she just had a major operation open chest surgery (P.17). |
| 3. We asked for a catholic priest to anoint [patient]. A pastoral worker rang, and he shared that that the priest wasn't allowed in the day before … So that was a bit distressing for us because we knew for sure and certain that [patient] would want a priest … and so the pastoral worker gave [patient] the last rights. Now, part of those giving of the last rights you do need a priest … so he did talk about maybe doing it via telehealth … that was upsetting because that was something really important to us and we know important to [patient] …. [Patient] has joked since “well that's why I didn't die, I wasn't going to go out via telehealth” (P.4) |
| 4. They said you can take one kid in … how do you pick a kid?. I had to do that, and they said to me, but your daughter is 18. It doesn't matter that she is 18 you know she has high level anxiety, she is on the spectrum she doesn't deal with normal life … I really felt that that was one place where families were really let down. (P.14). |
| 5. We have 3 children, so the other 2 children …[name] our 2nd child and myself we alternated going in but [father] and [brother] sort of sacrificed themselves for us to be able to go in … The 4 of us sat down and talked about it and they said that really [daughter] and I should go in … [Father] would drive us in and then he would go and sit across the road in the park or go for a walk. That was the closest he could be to [patient]. (P.4). |
| 5. Having to get special permission to escort him up and then he had to stay there on his own … I don't know if really if he was like shocked from all the machines and everything. He seemed to be ok, but he's mentally challenged … although he is 48 it's like talking to a small child. (P.10). |
| 6. It's really hard that only two of us can go in there and only one at a time, because you haven't got each other for support. You get in there and the doctor tells you bad news and you're in there crying on your own. It's so awful! (P.5) |
| • Effect on patients | 1. Dad to be honest was a little bit lost so he wasn't really … especially the first few days in ICU… He hasn't really got 100% what's happening. (P.1). |
| 2. He was upset but I think he was more upset that they were upset … he got upset because the kids were upset that they couldn't see him … he would have liked to have been able to reassure them (P.14). |
| 3. I saw her for the first time yesterday where she was conscious. She didn't want me to go, she was just clinging on to my hand, looked frightened. (She said) I'm really sick, I'm so scared, I want you here. (P.5) |
| 4. He just wants me there …. he is always saying, can you come back?...umm it's hard on everyone (sounding upset) … sorry (P.6). |
| • Restrictions were distressing to children | 1. My kids are absolutely distraught. Like my 9-year-old was the one that pulled her to the edge of the swimming pool which she dived in and broke her neck. (P.13). |
| 2. I guess the child restrictions are hard too … He's crying, he's distressed, he wants his mum. And he's angry … he waved her off in the ambulance and he hasn't seen her for over a week now … what's wrong with my mum? Why can't she come home? (P.5). |
| 3. if I can go in and my kids live with me why can't just one at a time? … Just take one child to visit their father … you know it's been almost over 2 weeks since they have seen their dad … They're 12, 15, 17, 19. (P. 12). |
| • Unique challenges for rural families | 1. … because the restrictions are only 20 min a day visiting, only one person a day. I didn't actually go down there because they had him in a coma, an induced coma …. so I thought that was pointless, but the staff were fantastic … (P.18) |
| 2. Someone has to sit in the car with the four-year-old as well which makes it hard, because my mum's blind so she can't actually get herself into the hospital to see her, and that's another issue … I think it's different if you live in Melbourne and you're local … It's a lot of money and a lot of time. And tiredness on top of the stress and the emotional exhaustion … logically you get it, but your heart doesn't get it … we're sort of a family who'd be in holding her hand every day, all day if we could. (P.5) |
| 3. I've been trying to keep the kids as normal as possible so they can be around their friends, we've just been taking it day by day. I've been travelling up and down … I am able to drop the kids at school and get down there and do the visitation and get back in time to pick them up … so we were up at 7 o'clock to get the kids ready for school, dropped the kids off to school did the 2.5-h trip down drove back 2.5 h. I fell asleep for an hour and half on the couch and the kids woke me up saying “dad, can you cook us dinner?” (P.13). |
| 4. We are down here from Queensland and are both from the country and sitting in a city apartment with not a lot to do … we just have to find ways to fill in our days pretty much because we only get to see her for 1 h every two days (P.15). |
| • Family and staff relationship | 1. They have a job to do and they were doing their job … and following the procedure but I didn't talk to them about it (P.19). |
| 2. Look I couldn't fault them that was as good as seeing them face to face they totally have everything there ready. If you were going to ask a question almost pre-empting you and giving the answers before you've even asked it. They are very, very good at their jobs. Excellent at their jobs. (P.18). |
| 3. They were all a great bunch of nurses, very compassionate … they had such a happy nature about them like … they just made you feel welcome and comfortable and always greeting you and let you know how mum was going … and if I asked a question they were happy to answer it. They give you a bit of space and any moment you needed them to be there they were there … just very accommodating (P.15).
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Theme 2: Family experiences of communication
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| • Staying in the loop | 1. ‘ … they were giving us an update every day, a nursing update, but they haven't done it (since Sunday). The doctor's rung us a couple of times but the communication's a lot less now than it was in the beginning … they're only going to ring you if there's major changes.’ (P.5). |
| 2. ‘The staff have been calling me once or twice a day. The communication is excellent. I haven't been having to chase any information. When I come into the hospital someone approaches me and tells me what has been going on’. (P.13). |
| 3. A couple of times I have requested an update from the doctors that are taking care of my dad but … there is a little bit of difficulty get through the doctors … and I can understand that … I am trying not to whinge about it (P.10). |
| 4. Usually, a doctor is visiting and asks you questions about things that happen at home or how procedures are at home … my husband is a bit different to most because he has been permanently ill for 12 years. This time round I didn't get a phone call or asked any questions at all …. The doctor I only spoke to once …. as soon as he came out of surgery was the only time I spoke to the doctors (P.14). |
| 5. Every time I came in to visit him the doctors were doing their rounds and they personally spoke to me one on one when I was there. The timing I came was perfect … (P.12). |
| 6. The only thing I didn't particularly like was when the registrar would come in and speak over [patient] … I then just started to ask if we could step outside the room and speak as opposed to speaking over her. You felt that they were talking about her as this subject rather than … because it is all very matter of fact (P.4) |
| 7. When doctors or consultants or registrars came and asked if I would like an update I would put them off and say “I only have this short time with [patient], can I talk to you after my 40 min?” Otherwise it was impinging on the time I have with [patient] which is short enough already (P.4). |
| 8. ‘The doctors have been very good. I had a report probably, on an average of, every 3 days.’ |
| 9. ‘The staff were great … his individual nurses would ring me morning, noon and night’ (P.18) |
| 10. I called. I kept calling, I'd call in the morning and then I'd call during the day, and I'd call in the evening. Sometimes I would call at midnight just to touch base if he has had a bad day. (P.12) |
| 11. ‘ … there's a lot of things that happen in there that you don't necessarily hear about. Not that you need to hear about everything, but it's only sometimes later when you listen to a nurse talking to somebody else … ’ (P.9). |
| 12. I was listening to the nurses talking to each other because I didn't know anything … Yeah, so you kind of fill in the information. (P.6). |
| 13. ‘ … when my husband went in for the operation, they rang me and said, “he is going into the operating room now” and then they rang me again later, “the operation has started. We will inform you when the operation ends”. They didn't! So, 10 h later I am worried sick thinking…. I did ring them and the operation went fine and finished at 2 o'clock, so it was a 6 and half hour operation … and I didn't know that … They didn't ring to say “he survived the operation” and because there was no information I actually thought the worst’ (P.19) |
| 14. Look communication is huge, or lack thereof so more and better communication. It would be great to know that, for example at 4 o'clock each day that I am going to get a call and just a bit of an update about what happens during the day. (P.6) |
| 15. It was a bit of a mess because I didn't understand how critically unwell she was when she was in [country town] because she went off by ambulance and no-one contacted me till the next day. I was so angry and upset. It was horrible. (P.5) |
| 16. You know sitting around waiting for a phone call is just torture. I have got past that stage of thinking “I might be interrupting them”. I have got to that stage where I think he doesn't have the capacity to ask to speak to us himself, so I need to advocate for him. (P.1) |
| 17. You'd rather talk to them face to face. It's a bit impersonal when you're on the phone, you sort of would like to put a name to the face … I haven't seen the surgeon, the main surgeon. It's harder on the phone. (P.3). |
| • Opportunities to connect | 1. There were long periods where he was … there were medicines he had to take, and he was hallucinating and … we just couldn't talk to him (P.14.) |
| 2. Once he was able to talk, he had his own phone down there we spoke a few times a day, but you know within 5 min that's it. He would want to get off the phone (P.18) |
| 3. The day before dad had started to wake up and manage a few words with me. Mum was super excited to get in to see him the next day to see his progress. She had her appointment time for the afternoon but then he had been sedated 5 min before mum's appointment time for a bronchoscopy … that was quite tough on her. (P.1). |
| • Teleconferencing with families | 1. He came out of surgery Monday morning and Monday night we had telehealth. The nurse hooked it up for us and next thing I know my phone was ringing ‘please except this telehealth’ and we managed to see him, and the kids managed to see him oh, it was amazing … beautiful. Very nice. It was a good surprise. (P.12) |
| 2. … we did video hook-up … they're great but you want to hold your mum … and see her in person rather than staring at a screen (P.15) |
| 3. I just want to sit there and hold her hand and say I love you. You didn't feel that you could with the nurse there on telehealth. (P.5) |
| 4. I didn't think we needed to do that (telehealth) because he doesn't have the facilities. … They don't have the internet on at home, so that would be a bit of a nightmare to do it that way. So, we just rang him on a daily basis just to let him know what was going on … (P.2) |
| 5. I was given that as an option but my husband when I spoke to him said he didn't want to do that just because he had a lot of wires and tubes and he felt that would be upsetting and traumatising for the kids so he decided we would just talk on the phone. (P.14) |
| • Family involvement in decision-making | 1. So early on when he was first transferred to the Alfred it was more like “So what would your dad want out of this situation? … he will hopefully be a candidate for a heart transplant, there were a few discussions yesterday whether we think he would be happy with that, and they have had little chats about that with dad now that he has more of a capacity to make those decisions. We definitely feel we have been involved in all the decision making (P.1). |
| 2. When they put him in ICU, they rang during that time for the breathing tube to be placed in. I think that was the first consent and then the trache was the second one. It's a matter of life I'd say there. You go along with what the doctors explain to you and its part of it (P.11). |
| 3. I didn't get to make a decision but she was in just a very dark place not knowing information and feeling sorry for herself thinking she is never going to walk again or move so … she was telling the nurses that she wanted to sign a do not resuscitate … and I said well that's horseshit, that's not happening and like where do I stand as her husband that she can't do that … I just told her and excuse the language to shut the f∗∗k up she's being a dickhead (P.13). |
| 4. The doctors sort of gave us the option if we wanted to do surgery or she would die, and we said we'll give her a go. The quality of life may be reduced. They were very honest in what they said but we felt even though it's probably not what mum wanted to do we felt we had to give her a bit of a fighting chance (P. 15).
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Theme 3: Care and support
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| • Enhanced care and support for patients | 1. I have so much praise for both teams, here and at the [hospital 1]. They were able to get him onto the ECMO and have him actually wake and neurologically unaffected is pretty much incredible. We are just so thankful for all the care (P.1). |
| 2. I was absolutely thoroughly pleased with the care and attention that [patient] got. I felt he was looked after very very well … how lucky are we that this sort of thing happens in Australia? If you have an accident and you can go to a place like this? You know it is awesome (P.7). |
| 3. I just have great admiration, seriously just great admiration for all that has been done for [patient] in the ICU. I was really overwhelmed how caring and professional … everything was. It's been a pretty emotional experience and they have been really supportive through that too … I think my husband feels that way too (P.8). |
| 4. I am quite happy with the care given to her though … for so long was a real big stress for me ICU have so many casual nurses … some of these casual nurses are the younger ones. I understand that there are a lot of old experienced casual nurses but some of the younger ones but I think it's definitely a risk factor |
| 5. Pretty much giving him a little bath. I've always done it for him the last few years and he has been happy with me doing it. He always says, ‘nah nah nah when my wife comes, she'll do it’ … it's something I have always done. I changed his bedsheets when he would get up into the chair … get his bed all ready. Sometimes get him off the chair, put him on the bed. Whatever food he's got, which is what mainly what I bring with me from home. Help him eat it, pack it all up and get his ice ready for the night. He likes his ice in his esky bottle. (P.12) |
| 6. For somebody especially with delirium, I thought I was useful and helpful. So, at one point I offered to feed [patient] which he required, and it actually happened to be mealtime for the staff so one nurse had to go and relieve another nurse. I was able to feed [patient] while she went and did that, and I was able to stay a little bit longer … but that was very carefully checked. (P.7). |
| 7. I massaged her feet with nice hand cream … I read her a card from a colleague, a work colleague it was a very long card, and it brought a tear to her eye (P.4). |
| 8. Just holding her hand and talking to her. She wasn't very active then so … pretty much just letting her know we were there. (P.15). |
| Compensatory care and support for families | 1. I just spoke to her a couple of times, and she just ran through what we can and can't do, how to do everything, giving me numbers for different places to call, making sure that we were doing ok and just generally being a bit of a sounding board. They picked the right person for the job because she was very personable … and caring (P.14) |
| 2. I'm a pretty proactive person anyway so I had already found out a lot of that information from just going through the website and that sort of thing and calling. I called ahead to find out but definitely I can see how to someone who didn't have access to all that stuff it is totally necessary. (P.1) |
| 3. She has rung a couple of times, but I don't really understand what the roles is. She always says ‘we are here to support you, anytime you need more information you can ring here or da da da da da and then they go off along their way.…it all really seems a bit superficial (P.6). |
| 4. I have a very close-knit family … I work with my sister and mum and dad and friends. We all live within 800m of each other so (laughs) from that point of view we have done alright (P.14). |
| 5. I am pretty independent, and I can priorities fairly well and I don't sweat the small things. I think I probably do but I am trying not to … yes, I have got a very good personal circle (P.7) |
| 6. The staff really made me comfortable. I was really nervous about going into the ward and they put me at ease and if it wasn't really for the staff I wouldn't have anyone else that really backed me up during that time. Even though you have people who say they support you and everything … just the anxiety and not knowing what you are going to see or if she has taken a turn for the worst or anything the staff really helped with that … The reception staff probably made the most positive impact … They personalised the experience and they always made sure they used your name and the patient's name and followed up on everything. (P.16) |
| 7. The social worker was excellent. She kept in contact, she always returned the phone calls, she offered support for everyone … for [son] and [husband] also for the girl who [patient] shared a unit with who started CPR on [patient] … they offered support for her. (P.4). |
| • Suggestions for improvement | 1. The Alfred admission process for family and friends is very lacking. They need more staff or better equip their staff to deal with people who are going through the worst times of their life. The Alfred needs more people at the front, and they probably need two people maybe three people. Like I think if they even had 5 people answering their phones they'd still be on the phone (P.13) |
| 2. If they let me in and my child lives with me, they're not going to school they are not doing anything else, yet I am allowed in. To me what difference is it to let a child who lives in that home that's not got contact with anybody … that would be my number one thing, using their common sense in the fact that you've got people living in the same house, if I can come in what does it matter that they come in as well? (P.14). |
| 3. If you have the two people screened to be able to come in for the duration of their stay but we can have the option of the third if one can't make it because that was a very fixed rule. Even if we couldn't go in together even if we could have a backup so say if I couldn't go in or my brother couldn't go in at least someone could be there (P.16). |
| 4. We were given an hour but then given 25 min … if you are there for an hour, why can't you be there for 2 h? (P.4) |
| 5. So maybe update every day … look, the nurses were all helpful when I spoke to them but there wasn't any other communication. (P.3). |
| 6. Regular communication. It would be great to know that, for example at 4 o'clock each day that I am going to get a call and just a bit of an update about what happens during the day (P.6). |
| 7. My first main suggestion would be for nursing staff to be proactive with calling families and I know that it takes time but even just 2 min to say “look he has been stable overnight, he is doing really well, would you like to have a chat with him or would you like to say hello?”. Even if he is not in the capacity to talk back I just think it was really important to me for dad to be able to hear my voice. (P.1) |
| 8. I do not know what the hospital's operational procedures and all that but it is a fair point that ICU have so many casual nurses. I understand that there is a shortage of nurses, but for an ICU … (P.17). |
| 9. It's probably one thing that I have been disappointed in that he doesn't have consistency in the terms of nursing staff … there is only once that I have had the same person on twice in a row. You just get a relationship and then they are gone again, and you never see them again (P.6). |