| Struggle to find a balance |
You are walking along a tightrope. You have to take into account social justice, you need to avoid being too invasive, you need to consider the welcoming aspect itself, and it's very difficult to strike a balance between all these.
Interview 12, pediatrician, age range = 51–60 years
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The problem is that there is so much variance among subjects. Contexts are so different, and that makes it extremely difficult.
Interview 16, intensive care specialist, age range = 51–60 years
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We don't have any ethical guidelines for patients who arrive in a vegetative state, so issues are addressed on a case‐by‐case basis; the only guideline is that these cases need to be discussed.
Interview 4, intensive care specialist, age range = 51–60 years
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The paradigm is “not being able to communicate as it is usually done.” Communication occurs through channels and processes that must necessarily be adapted to the communicative level, which in turn corresponds to the cognitive one.
Interview 17, intensive care specialist, age range = 51–60 years
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Science is evaluative, so if a complication arises, science does not tell us if and what to do. It tells us what to do if we decide to do it. But deciding if to do it is an ethical evaluation, not a scientific one. If we decide to do it, science tells us how to do it.
Interview 19, neurologist, age range = 71–80 years
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Deciding when life is worth living and when it's not is an extremely difficult and dangerous decision for its impact on society. However, we tend to be a bit bigoted… On the one hand, we offer simple prenatal screenings for trisomy 21 so that people can decided whether to have an abortion and, on the other hand, we do not want to discuss when life is not worth living.
Interview 11, pediatrician, age range = 41–50 years
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When you realize the magnitude of the [brain] damage, you have to make a rapid decision.
Interview 9, neurologist, age range = 41–50 years
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Every decision is very personal. It may not be decided in the same way as a family member or another surrogate. There are situations that must be projected within oneself and need to be contextualized to a larger container that has many things inside: feelings, religious beliefs, our cultural features, our expectations and whatever we have absorbed over time.
Interview 12, pediatrician, age range = 51–60 years
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| Time as an asset in facilitating a qualitative evaluation |
That's one of the liquid factors, and liquid is also the prognosis factor because it's aleatory and it's not measurable. Even though there are better and worse criteria for determining prognosis, but in the end, it boils down to something that has a certain extent of arbitrariness, as the quality of life and real vs. presumed patient's will.
Interview 17, intensive care specialist, age range = 51–60 years
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For me being awake, but not self‐aware, does not correspond to being alive in the human sense. Life loses the human quality. So, self‐awareness, in my opinion, is part of this quality. What makes us human? Is self‐awareness necessary? Is it sufficient? You need a philosopher here to help you understand. For me, in my vision, self‐awareness is necessary. I should have a sufficient level of self‐awareness to live, at least in my vision. There should be self‐awareness and no suffering. If I’m self‐aware and suffering, no! If I'm not self‐aware, no! Then, how much self‐awareness you need, where to draw the line, I don't know. Is self‐awareness only qualitative or quantitative? We don't know.
Interview 1, neurologist, age range = 51–60 years
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Basically, you have to understand three or four things. One is to understand the seriousness of the state; when we say coma, when we say vegetative state, when we say minimally conscious state, these are categories, as we said before, and it is our daily task not to give a label, but an as accurate as possible description of the situation. Because, as I said before, leaving aside the psychosocial aspect, where the patient comes from, his/her age… let us stick to the clinical aspects; the clinical situation of each patient is different.
Interview 7, neurologist, age range = 61–70 years
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You need to know how to perform the evaluation. For instance, you need to know how to wait. After a head trauma, I can ask a patient to hold my hand tight, but s/he will never do it the way you would do it if I were asking you. You need to wait 20 or 30 s and then the patient reacts. Then you need to try more to understand if it was by chance or if it was a real response. So, if one doesn't know that you need to spend time with these patients maybe s/he will say that the patient doesn't react, but instead the patient feels more, s/he just doesn't have fast enough connections to respond in time so that the other understands.
Interview 11, pediatrician, age range = 41–50 years
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It depends on the damage and the reason… it depends on the etiology. Whether the vegetative state is caused by a head injury, a tumor, or a prolonged cardiac arrest. It depends a lot on the etiology, but also on the time between the event and the current situation, so if 1 day has passed it is one thing, if 6 months have passed it is another.
Interview 13, neurologist, age range = 41–50 years
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Let me say something very important: it is always a temporary assessment. If one has taken benzodiazepines, s/he might be very different after 6 h. If one has had a stroke maybe‡. (short pause) so the assessment needs to be repeated. To be able to evaluate well, especially if you are moving toward the third aspect that is the prognosis, you must see a progress, and this is the third element of the evaluation.
Interview 7, neurologist, age range = 61–70 years
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| Between patient's and family's quality of life |
To what extent do you want that person to survive because it's your need, or because you think that he or she considers his/her life worth living?
Interview 1, neurologist, age range = 51–60 years
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How can you make a decision, when you look into the patient's eyes, when he/she has pneumonia and is sick, if you don't know anything about him/her? And, often, you know nothing or very little.
Interview 7, neurologist, age range = 61–70 years
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Usually, in these chronic situations, we tend to rely on parents because, in spite of everything, they are usually the ones who know the patient best, they can pick up on the little nuances.
Interview 5, pediatrician, age range = 51–60 years
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In fact, those who are closest to them, that is, parents, or those who work in institutions such as the social workers, are often able to perceive more elements than what a professional such as a doctor might perceive.
Interview 6, pediatrician, age range = 41–50 years
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This is such a huge and sensitive issue, because it's such a subjective variable. In the end, it's the family member who interprets the patient's quality of life.
Interview 16, intensive care specialist, age range = 51–60 years
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Should we evaluate the quality of life of the family, the mom's, the dad's, or should we evaluate the quality of life of the individual? Here, again, it's very, very difficult.
Interview 6, pediatrician, age range = 41–50 years
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You can never say “this is appendicitis” but you need to say “this is appendicitis in a child with this kind of clinical context and this kind of social context.”
Interview 17, intensive care specialist, age range = 51–60 years
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Therapy is often done for a number of compromises. Treating a patient is something that is done for the benefit of the patient. However, that is also interpreted by the patient's social context, especially family members, and also therapists, social workers, all those who take care of or who want to do the best for these patients.
Interview 12, pediatrician, age range = 51–60 years
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These children are in a situation of great precariousness, in the sense that they cannot defend themselves and cannot assert their advance directives or presumed will. Therefore, the patient was represented by the person who was closest to him, i.e., his mother or the social workers who had been following him for years. On the one hand, one might think that because no one is protecting them from their suffering and because they cannot express themselves, it is the duty of the caregivers to “defend” them and make sure that they no longer continue to suffer; on the other hand, however, in the real life, we were so impressed by the tragedy experienced by his mother that it seemed to us that going against her wishes… she had followed her child with immense love and sacrifices for years… here the beneficence toward his mother, who represented him, prevailed… as if our compassion was stronger toward the mother than the child.
Interview 15, intensive care specialist, age range = 71–80 years
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On the one hand, I wonder how I can judge this; on the other hand, I have a feeling that people who are very close to these patients, for example, family members and social workers, are not very rational.
Interview 2, internal medicine specialist, age range = 51–60 years
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Sometimes, parents' suffering is overwhelming and shattering.
Interview 14, pediatrician, age range = 51–60 years
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Sometimes, you need to decide together with the family whether to institutionalize the patient or not. Because, in some cases, families take full care of the patient at home and one of the family members is usually completely devoted to these individuals.
Interview 9, neurologist, age range = 41–50 years
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There's not only the issue of the mother, but also the dad and siblings who, it's true, are of lesser importance than the baby and the mother… but they exist too! So, we have something related to beneficence that we are not so sure of, and something related to maleficence that is certainly greater than zero.
Interview 4, intensive care specialist, age range = 51–60 years
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It is extremely important to understand and describe what it means to keep a child alive and the consequences of doing it at home. This means intensive care at home with alarms every 2 or 3 min, even during the night. A nurse may not available 24/7. You need to also consider the impact this can have on brothers and sisters — who are often forgotten.
Interview 11, pediatrician, age range = 41–50 years
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| Risk of self‐fulfilling prophecies |
It's quite complicated. We often direct decision toward the negative and not the positive, particularly in severe cases. There is a sort of self‐fulfilling prophecy; you move toward the negative, and this prediction affects the outcome, because the meaning and behavior align with that and eventually affect all actions. This self‐fulfilling prophecy funnels and influences future decisions, especially in the postcoma. And this can create conflicts with the patient. If you can't bring everyone to a shared opinion, it may be that family members want a tracheotomy or so, and often you pursue this desire in order not to break this alliance with the family. The self‐fulfilling prophecy is always present and always has a negative meaning. And the problem is that there is big gray area.
Interview 10, neurologist, age range = 41–50 years
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As a statement published in 2007—but still valid—well puts it, this could be a self‐fulfilling prophecy, as expressed by colleagues in the US. In other words, in accordance with objective observations (brain images showing extremely severe and unrecoverable brain damage), physicians made the diagnosis of vegetative state, claiming that the patient has no signs of awareness. Presenting some cases, the authors of the article demonstrated instead evident signs of awareness, although these were not expressed in words.
Interview 18, neurologist, age range = 71–80 years
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Where is the limit? I don't know if there is a limit, but we are at the very edges of the limits, if any. […] If life is a value in itself, and that is the only element that you base all your reasonings on, then everything else gets lost.
Interview 1, neurologist, age range = 51–60 years
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One of the fathers of resuscitation used to say that we perform excessive treatments on every patient. That is, something that is potentially unacceptable but becomes acceptable only because we save his or her life and, in this way, we justify our actions. […] With regard to the population under investigation [pediatric patients], it becomes even more complicated, because a justification can easily be found with an adult patient; he or she is giving us the mandate to save his or her life. Therefore, even from a moral point of view, we feel justified to harm this patient as long as we save his or her life. A child may have already been through big things, orthopedic surgeries, and now something huge like this… The problem is that the line is extremely subjective.
Interview 16, intensive care specialist, age range = 51–60 years
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That is not accepted by everyone, just as the fact that life is, in itself, regardless of an absent neurological state, a value. […] Speaking of the vegetative state, the problem lies precisely in understanding what good I am doing by keeping the person alive, i.e., is the life of these people a good or not? Does life, as an object of love, have value?
Interview 4, intensive care specialist, age range = 51–60 years
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I remember children who would never make any progress independently, let's say, from the number of hours offered by parents. I say that what matters is not making progress but doing as much as possible for the greatest gift that a child represents. […] Parents who have a child with severe disabilities want to invest as much as they can, and do not take into account that there is a whole world around them that they are surrounded by.
Interview 12, pediatrician, age range = 51–60 years
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