| Literature DB >> 35274083 |
Karalyn A Kiessling1, Bradley E Iott1,2, Jessica A Pater3, Tammy R Toscos3, Shauna R Wagner3, Laura M Gottlieb4, Tiffany C Veinot1,2.
Abstract
Objective: To explore diverse provider perspectives on: strategies for addressing patient medication cost barriers; patient medication cost information gaps; current medication cost-related informatics tools; and design features for future tool development. Materials andEntities:
Keywords: drug costs; electronic prescribing; health; information seeking behavior; insurance; social determinants of health
Year: 2022 PMID: 35274083 PMCID: PMC8903137 DOI: 10.1093/jamiaopen/ooac007
Source DB: PubMed Journal: JAMIA Open ISSN: 2574-2531
Characteristics of study participants (n = 38)
| Characteristics | Number | Percentage |
|---|---|---|
| Gender | ||
| Male | 6 | 16 |
| Female | 32 | 84 |
| Age | ||
| Mean/median | 43/41 | |
| Range | 32–61 | |
| Race | ||
| White (non-Hispanic) | 35 | 92 |
| Black or African American | 1 | 3 |
| Multiracial | 2 | 5 |
| Clinical Area | ||
| Cardiology | 6 | 16 |
| Family/Internal medicine | 6 | 16 |
| Population health | 6 | 16 |
| Community health/nursing | 3 | 8 |
| Women’s and Children’s | 2 | 5 |
| Home health | 2 | 5 |
| Inpatient care | 2 | 5 |
| Oncology | 2 | 5 |
| Outpatient surgery center | 2 | 5 |
| Pediatrics | 2 | 5 |
| Pharmacy | 2 | 5 |
| Endocrinology | 1 | 3 |
| Orthopedic/Neurology | 1 | 3 |
| Substance use/Mental health | 1 | 3 |
| Provider Profession | ||
| Nurse | 17 | 45 |
| Social worker | 6 | 16 |
| Physician | 5 | 13 |
| Pharmacist | 3 | 8 |
| Medical assistant | 3 | 8 |
| Administration | 2 | 5 |
| Nurse practitioner | 1 | 3 |
| Pharmacy technician | 1 | 3 |
| Practice duration (years) | ||
| Mean/median | 15/14 | |
| Range | 1–38 | |
| Length of employment at the health system (years) | ||
| Mean/median | 10/8.5 | |
| Range | <1–38 | |
| RTBT usage history | ||
| Direct RTBT usage experience: Prescribers | 4 | 11 |
| Indirect RTBT usage and implementation experience: 1 prescriber and 2 nonprescribers | 3 | 8 |
| No RTBT usage: prescribers without RTBT access due to phased Implementation | 3 | 8 |
| No RTBT usage: prescribers with access who had not used | 1 | 3 |
| No RTBT usage: nonprescribers without RTBT access | 27 | 71 |
How providers report addressing medication cost barriers and information gaps
| Topic | Theme | Quotes from Provider Interviews |
|---|---|---|
| How providers report addressing medication cost barriers | ||
| Reducing the amount of medication that a patient takes |
“It could be they can [no] longer afford it. They’ve changed insurance and their copay is unreasonable now. They may have fallen into…that donut hole and they can’t temporarily afford [medications]…I do a comprehensive medication review…streamline that list for medications that may no longer be necessary.” (P33, Pharmacist) “…doctors are adamant about helping them eat healthy…so that they can…taper off…medications…they can’t afford” (P1, Social Worker) | |
| How providers report addressing medication cost barriers | Prescribing a comparable medication at lower cost |
Prescriber roles: “I… see if we can change them from more expensive medication…to a less expensive medication that would work similarly.” (P27, Physician) “[about the RTBT] The cost information that is specific to that insurance, it frequently impacts my ordering… I always tell patients…these three medicines are all very similar and I will prescribe the one that is least expensive for you…But I don’t know which one your insurance covers…” (P37, Physician) Nonprescriber roles: “…you can make this recommendation earlier on for the physician, say ‘I’d love to have this patient on Entresto, but maybe we really ought to consider just putting them on an ARB instead because they’re not going to be able to afford the Entresto.” (P34, Pharmacist) “[H]e was initially started on Brilinta, which was too expensive for him so we switched him over to Plavix and gave him coupons…it is asking for a physician to review and place the new order.” (P31, Nurse) |
| Provide additional resources to stay on current regimen |
“…I’ll tell them to ask their provider for samples …Or we do GoodRx and see if it is cheaper…” (P4, Nurse) “We communicate with the Medication Assistance Program…one of my patients, we got free samples of Humalog…” (P3, Nurse) “Dad’s just been laid off, I tried generic form [of asthma medication] and dad called and it was over $200 for an inhaler so I was able to call the pulmonologist who had the sample…” (P11, Physician) | |
| Resources to address other adherence barriers |
“… they’ll tell you, ‘Well, you know, I didn’t get it refilled yet.’ ‘And why is that?’…You don’t have transportation to get to the pharmacy? … There are mail-order pharmacies… I’ve…picked up meds for a patient and taken them to their home every month.” (P8, Nurse) “…community health workers…help…with budgeting…[they] might be able to say, ‘Hey, if I can help you get diapers from this organization and additional food from this food bank, would you be able to save $10, so that you would be able to afford your medication?’” (P13, Nurse) | |
| Medication cost-related information gaps | ||
| reported medication cost-related information gaps | Patient’s financial resources and ability to pay |
“[I will ask] If I have concerns about their compliance….it was pretty obvious…they weren’t taking the medicine that I had prescribed so we talked about it….it was hundreds of dollars a month.” (P11, Physician) “…everybody has different securities in what they can see…front desk people, they are able to see that this patient…clinical staff don’t have the capability to look at the financial side.” (P21, Nurse) “The patient would have to divulge that information [about difficulty paying for medications.” (P31, Nurse) |
| True cost to patient, and for whole regimen |
“I have no idea [how to find out patient out of pocket costs]…I wish I did…We don’t know…until they go to the pharmacy.” (P11, Physician) “[The RTBT] works 50% of the time…when you click on the estimation, the dollar sign that comes up, it’ll show the price of it. Others, it’s just a blank.” (P38, Physician) “…88%…that was our anticipated coverage rate…They may be on no insurance plan…[also] let’s say the patient has Medicare and Medicaid? I can only ping one of them with this tool…So, it’s not going to be accurate for that patient.” (P33, Pharmacist) “..how much is this patient spending on all of their medications, which might be helpful from the primary care perspective…” (P27, Physician) | |
| Impact of changes in patient insurance status on cost |
“…with [the] Medicare donut hole…a brand name anticoagulant may start off at $40 a month…but then they hit the [donut hole] halfway through the year and …[it’s] $300 a month… websites aren’t going to tell you where in the benefit they are that year.” (P36, Pharmacist) “…with insurances [cost] also needs to be looked at, at the beginning of each year as you meet your deductible…” (P26, Adminstrative) | |
Strengths and weaknesses of current tools
| Theme | Subtheme | Quotes from Provider Interviews |
|---|---|---|
| Strengths and weaknesses of current tools | Providers find some cost-related information unclear |
“…some patients…when the provider puts in the medication, they can see that this is a tier 1, tier 2, tier 3 medication…some [ask], What does tier 1 mean? What does tier 2 mean? ” (P21, Nurse) “…it would be interesting if prices could be in there… If it’s covered, what the co-pay is or what that actually means.” (P7, Physician) “Q1Medicare.com. I can enter the patient’s Medicare plan and it will give me the patient’s medication list and associated copay tiers…I may not know the copay amount …” (P33, Pharmacist) |
| Some providers are uncertain about the quality of cost-related information |
“…a lot of times, the stuff that pops up you can’t trust at all, you know? … You don’t know that it’s… consistent with what their insurance is really going to cover…..I don’t know if it’s related to certain insurance companies… I do see [the RTBT]… a handful of times a month…it tends to be with the diuretics. Why?” (P35, Nurse Practitioner) “…[the RTBT is] not always accurate because at times insurance formularies are not up to date or the insurance coverage is not up to date, so it is not always possible to get that information.” (P27, Physician) “…those formularies…PDF files are sent to me … Those are less accurate because they’re only sent to me annually.” (P33, Pharmacist) “I would assume that it’s accurate because I haven’t had patients call to state that they aren’t able to afford a medication that was previously told to them that it would be X amount of cost.” (P38, Physician) “…they’re not perfect, but they’re usually good at the front desk making sure [insurance is] updated…before we see the patient. So that was my argument that we have to trust the [AVS].” (P31, Nurse) | |
| Cost-related information is not getting to all of the people who may need it |
“… the majority of our providers…do not put their own orders in, so you’re going to have a medical assistant [or nurse] having that [RTBT] popup…they’re just going to bypass that…” (P35, Nurse Practitioner) “When I’m with a patient…we do our own order entry, but…[when] orders come through as ‘patient called’… we tell the nurse this is the order…and they order it…They would get that same [RTBT] popup… they might be just clicking through it…” (P37, Physician) “I want my care coordinators to know [costs]. A patient gets a new prescription but they did not have that conversation in the office and so they’re asking me how much their copay is going to be…There are thousands of insurance plans, I have no idea.” (P33, Pharmacist) “It would help if we did have some of that [insurance or financial] information ahead of time…when they are coming into the emergency room, we’re trying to gather it right away.” (P6, Social Worker) | |
| Not always available when needed |
“We don’t want to be …’it’s just another popup that’s getting in my way of finishing this order’… you end up not paying attention…if I could have a way to access that [RTBT] information outside of the patient visit…or, if I’m talking to the patient…if I could look it up…” (P37, Physician) “I would like it to not be so restrictive to an order function, because I want to use it…even though I don’t have order capability, I want to identify alternatives and how much this is going to be.” (P33, Pharmacist) “…based on the patient’s insurance, [the After-Visit Summary] gave that patient an estimate on their meds…if the physician ordered, say Plavix and you sent it to Walgreens, it would give the patient an estimated cost of what they were going to pay at their pharmacy … the providers thought it was going to make their visits last longer, that they were going to have to revisit…and I’m like…‘At least I know now, here, and then we’re not finding out an hour later [by phone].’” (P31, Nurse) “…when we order a medication…[HER] will show us whether the drug is on a preferred list, if it’s covered by insurance… so that triggers it right away for us to look at that.” (P20, Clinical Manager) “Having access to the information at the time of prescribing is a game-changer for them… the delay in the patient receiving the care that they need is eliminated.” (P33, Pharmacist) | |
| Difficult to access |
“… it would nice if the health system all had one place that they looked at to see where the gaps [in patients’ social needs] are…right now…we might identify these three [financial] needs and we might document it…but then if the [other provider] will never see that…” (P23, Nurse) “Just a simple tab would be wonderful!… so we will know where to go to get that information if it is in regards to client medications…we could go to for patient discounted rates or something like that…” (P14, Nurse) “…there are resources out there…but the fact that they’re not…integrated into our system makes it’ harder to use them…Fingertip Formulary…you have to go to a different system…it’s going to take a lot of time and it’s not going to become something that I can use while the patient’s sitting there.” (P34, Pharmacist) “[Medication cost apps are]… so user-dependent…that’s going to be at the forefront for some providers and…not for others.” (P7, Physician) |
Provider ideas for future medication cost tools
| Theme | Subtheme | Quotes from provider interviews |
|---|---|---|
| Support for Choosing Medications | Medication comparison features |
“I would like [the RTBT] on “[The RTBT] covers [Medicare] Part D meds. I want a tool that does the same thing for [Medicare] Part B meds. I want to know what my chemo copay is going to be…my IV antibiotics…” (P33, Pharmacist) “I could click on this and say… these are the other options for the same…drug class and this is going to be much less expensive for the patient…I would do that…” (P35, Nurse Practitioner) “…a comparison of the cost of similar medications, otherwise you have to put in the order…see what the cost would be and then do that again for another medication…if there was some way to compare across medications in the same class easily… It’s difficult to figure out what that difference in cost would be… (P27, Physician) “…a tool to help us know how to [consider costs] while accomplishing other things we want to do; it would be nice to put them on the class of drug that also helps them lose weight…or lower their cardiovascular risk…” (P37, Physician) “…a tab…[to] click on; as I’m thinking about prescribing it, and it shows what the insurance would cover for a particular medication and what the alternatives through would be. And then… GoodRx, these are the closest pharmacies…you need our coupon…And these are the prices even without insurance.” (P35, Nurse Practitioner) |
| User control over interaction |
“…a tab…that popup is so random. If I could count on every time I click on this I could see…[cost] information…I could say, this is going to be best for the patient.” (P35, Nurse Practitioner) “…so I could plug it in and click an inquiry button before I click submit and the computer would run that medicine through that pharmacy and it has some comparisons too…” (P11, Physician) | |
| Quick-reference sources to facilitate discussions about costs | Searches for patient-specific cost information available within current workflows |
“… within [EHR], if you would have a search field… type in, cost of whatever med you want…it could then plop out based on this patient and what insurance they have and their co-pay…” (P10, Nurse) “…a link in the [EHR] navigator… be able to put in that medication…to find out what the cost is…[staff] end up calling the pharmacy. I could see [some patients] using [it]…” (P12, Nurse) “…patients calling and saying, ‘this medication is too expensive for me.’…it’s like, ‘Okay, well how much was it?’…they’re like, ‘I don’t remember.’…if you had the ability to see how much a medication would cost for that patient outside of an order…” (P36, Pharmacist) |
| Links and lookups to use for more general cost information |
“….well for cost of medication…on the med list like, Lyrica is $200 bucks…that would be nice, so then I could at a glance…if it was right on the med list that said the approximate cost …it would definitely help in my med review…” I would say, “Whew, that Lyrica is expensive, how do you afford that?” (P4, Nurse) “I’ll have caseworkers that…ask questions about medications…I could explain what it’s for and why…and the pricing…” (P8, Nurse) | |
| Patient-facing reports of medication costs and coverage |
“…as their plan changes if they could get into [patient portal] and say, ‘my insurance must have changed’…I can’t take Humalog, now I have to take NovoLog…a quick step to their formulary.” (P21, Nurse) “…it would be wonderful to be able to give [patients a] financial spreadsheet … their treatment plan or the financials or the supportive services…so that they have a copy of it.” (P26, Administrative) “…we enjoyed [the After-Visit Summary] because our patients could see right then what they were going to be paying…” (P32, Nurse) | |
| Streamlining medication resource referrals | Centralization and standardization of affordability resources information |
“All in one place! It would be nice if there was a link that we could go to or even just within [EHR]…if I identify…certain medication that a patient just can’t afford… try to find the medication at a lower rate for them…” (P5, Social Worker) “All manufacturers. All insurances. Everybody did everything the same and so you knew exactly what to look at, where to look, to figure out what co-pay was, what deductible was….straightforward to be able to determine [needs]…” (P30, Pharmacy Technician) |
| Assessment of medication needs and available resources |
“How can we help…the duration, the amount, the diagnosis, the insurance or lack of insurance… ‘they only need three units or they need a weeks’ supply.’ that’s different than somebody who might need three months or a lifetime.” (P15, Social Worker) “I’d want to know…the needs and the available resources …insurance…income supports…ability to pay.” (P9, Social Worker) | |
| Patient-facing cost-alleviation resource information |
“…a simple tab that we could go to for patient discounted rates… It could be on…[t]he patient’s access to the [Health System] site. There are some patients…they could search…” (P14, Nurse) “…when that issue arose that we could then use that tool or that information to communicate with the adult, parents, whatever about what their options are.” (P18, Social Worker) | |
| Patient status | Centrally accessible visual summary of patient out-of-pocket costs |
“[I would want information on the patient’s out of pocket costs presented] …in [EHR] …you want it in the same place every time…There’s like a snapshot screen …That’s probably what people look at the most. So I would say there.” (P24, Clinical Manager) “I would put [patient cost information] in bullet points and I would put it right on the summary page of my patient’s chart so I can see it….That would be a point of reference, for every time we’re changing therapy or ordering tests or scheduling procedures …” (P32, Nurse) “…to have easy visual to see which patients are most at risk [for affordability issues]… makes use of the banner…” (P34, Pharmacist) |