| Literature DB >> 33537663 |
Christopher J Dy1,2, David M Brogan1, Liz Rolf1,2, Wilson Z Ray3, Scott W Wolfe4, Aimee S James2.
Abstract
PURPOSE: Increasing emphasis has been placed on multidisciplinary care for patients with traumatic brachial plexus injury (BPI), and there has been a growing appreciation for the impact of psychological and emotional components of recovery. Because surgeons are typically charged with leading the recovery phase of BPI, our objective was to build a greater understanding of surgeons' perspectives on the care of BPI patients and potential areas for improvement in care delivery.Entities:
Keywords: Brachial plexus injury; Emotional recovery; Expectations; Peripheral nerve; Psychological recovery
Year: 2020 PMID: 33537663 PMCID: PMC7853659 DOI: 10.1016/j.jhsg.2020.10.010
Source DB: PubMed Journal: J Hand Surg Glob Online ISSN: 2589-5141
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| I think any surgery—particularly complex surgeries that are—these are, by nature, high-risk surgeries, and I think that it then requires a pretty intimate relationship with the patient. And I think that most people are hesitant to voluntarily engage in an intimate relationship with somebody that is difficult to deal with, at best. | |
| [Being wary of addressing psychological aspects of recovery] is human nature, especially in a litigious society. You tend to worry that those are the patients that will not be understanding if things don’t go perfectly and that you may be at risk for liability down the road. It’s also human nature to not want to have to deal with difficult people in your clinic who are unhappy and make you unhappy. If you have a few patients that go through [unsatisfactory outcomes], it will put you off of doing difficult things for difficult people. | |
| We all have patients that we connect to. And when you connect to a patient and you see the pain that they’re in, that probably hits you a little bit harder. It’s not that we don’t care about all our patients, of course, we do, but we’re humans and we have emotional connections. And when you get an emotional connection, and the person really struggles, I think you internalize it more. And when you internalize things enough time, it changes your behavior. | |
| If you’re asking, “How do we help them with social issues?” to be honest with you, I do very little of that. And if you say, “Why?” It’s honestly because I don’t think about it that much. The brachial plexus patients already take three or four times longer than the other patients to see. I’ve already given a lot more of myself to them than I give to the majority of my patients. And then, for me to handhold them through the social issues, I don’t have the time, um, uh, or the skill set to do that. That’s not my skill set. My skill set is something else. And quite frankly, I don’t know that I have the emotional fortitude to deal with that, in addition to all of the other things that I’ve already tried to deal with for them. | |
| [Considering psychological issues] is kind of an unspoken thing. A lot of surgeons are not going to think of it. They’re not going to engage their patients in it. It’s definitely not in our wheel house of expertise to be talking about psychological issues. | |
| We see [BPI patients having] PTSD and depression, so we screen every patient every visit for PTSD and depression. […] I think the psychological side is sometimes a bigger problem than the physical side for a lot of these patients, so we’ve collected that data since the start. | |
| I think it’s better to have somebody else [addressing psychological issues]. That’s not something that I know anything about, and I just wouldn’t do as good of a job. We’ve learned a lot about questions they’ve asked that I didn’t think about. The other thing is, it’s a lot to deal with just to think about the surgical aspects of planning and what has to be done next, and then to throw that into the mix, when you have these complex patients, it’s maxing out on my bandwidth for the patient. | |
| [Knowing about the patient’s social support network] doesn’t change the surgical management or the physical part of that. It’s more like—let’s say he comes in post-op, and he’s down or something like that, and now that I know this background, I can get more on it. I’ll probably be like, “Wait a second,” and call [the social worker] in. | |
| I think every plexus team should have somebody who helps with the social and mental issues that these patients have. Because so many of them have psychological issues like PTSD and depression and suicidal ideation. It’s very prevalent in this group, and not to mention the financial burden. | |
| In general what I will tell [patients with signs of emotional stress] is, you know, “I don’t handle the mental side of this. This is obviously a significant injury. I’m here to support you. You tell me when it’s time, and I can get you to see someone that can help you from a mental health standpoint. If you say, ‘I’m fine right now. I’ve got the family support,’ we’re good. And if in a month, something changes, let me know.” So I just try to really give them the opportunity to seek that out when they’re mentally ready to do it, because some people—you know, I think just saying, “Well, I want you to see the psychiatrist to help with this” is not the best approach because there are people that end up getting a negative effect rather than a positive effect. So I want them to be in the state of mind where they will benefit from it, and I can make the referral, but we don’t have that—a good team where I’d say, “Boy, I’ve got a person that treats these all the times on the psychiatric end.” As we look to develop a plexus team, to be able to have all those ancillary pieces in place to really treat the whole patient, as opposed to it kind of being fragmented as it is at this point. | |
| I think what we need to do is we need to have better access to resources to plug them in right from the start instead of piecemealing it together: like I’m going to try and coordinate with the therapist here at this place, and you’re going to get your pain management done here at this place, and a lot of these patients never show back up. | |
| I tell patients what I think right up front. In general, I tend to err on being a little bit more pessimistic. And my philosophy behind that is not that I want to crush people, but it’s always easier to be a hero than the bad guy down the road when what you predicted doesn’t come true. Like, if they do better than you predicted you’re a superstar. If you they don’t get what you led them to believe, they can be upset with you. | |
| I try to get [patients] to discuss with me their understanding of where we’re at and where we’re going. That way I don’t cloud their judgment and I can figure out what information they’ve retained. And if they have a good understanding of where we’re going. | |
| I meet with plexus patients again and I’ll sort of preface things by saying something like, to the effect of, “I know we’ve talked about this before, and I may be repeating myself, but I’m going to go through it from the start again, just so we’re on the same page,” and repeat everything from the beginning. And then, you can get a sense a little bit as to whether or not people are carrying some of the information forward, or if it’s a bit overwhelming the first time they hear things. And it can be kind of tough to retain things as you go forward, then I find the repetition of things helps. | |
| In general, I do think that you can get a sense from people as to how well they’re engaging with their problem, the kind of questions they’re asking, how focused they seem to be. … Active versus passive as they kind of are sort of taking on the challenge. And I think a big factor of it is how well they’ve accommodated to the idea that this is a long road. You know? I think, sometimes people if they think that they’re in for a quick fix, it can be very disheartening to understand that they got a long road ahead of them. And the people, who can understand the length of time, they’re kind of ready. | |
| At the beginning, you just have to tell patients that “We’re going to do your surgery today, but you’re not going to notice any twitch or anything unusual for many months.” And then, “Once you start to notice things, it’s not like plugging in a light switch. You’re going to take some time. […] I think that being able to point out progress and changes in their clinical exam, and reemphasizing that these little changes are actually really a good sign of the nerve recovery. And really giving them a sense that their potential, and just keep reminding them that they’re going to be making progress for 18 months plus after their injury. But, beyond that, it’s hard. You want to make sure that they realize that what they’re doing is only helping their recovery. | |
| I dumb [the conversation about treatment expectations] down as much as I can and explain it to them. And when they come back, I explain it to them again. | |
| I think we probably fail at that sort of bigger discussion about where do you feel you are and how do you feel their doing. And I think part of that it’s hard to engage a patient in expectations where probably most people with a nerve injury like a brachial plexus injury really understand that this might take 2 years to recover. They can’t get past that—that possibility. | |
| If someone with a complete plexus avulsion injury is like, “I really like playing the piano, and I want to be able to do that and probably tennis, too.” And that’s not realistic. And it helps me to understand, they don’t really get it yet. That I have not done a good job educating them yet. | |
| Some people want to be back to normal. You know, the first time I see them, I always tell them, “You’re not going to be normal, right? But, if you do surgery, the best chance is 70% chance you have some meaningful use.” Then they’ll come back, said, “I thought said we can have 70%.” They are always going to twist your words. Always because they are in denial. You know, they don’t want to accept. They don’t want to accept the 70% chance—30% chance of no recovery, 70% chance some recovery, not complete recovery. | |
| One of the things that I always try to remember about these injuries and these patients—it’s the same with replants. It’s the only way I’m able to survive replants—you just have to remember: you didn’t cut the finger off. You didn’t give this person this brachial plexus injury, and you’re giving them the best shot [at recovery]. | |
PTSD, posttraumatic stress disorder.