| Unit transfer privilege |
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emergency department … just [books] them to medicine … they don't call you to say, “Can I book them to medicine?” They just say, “We booked a patient to you.”Receiving general medicine physician on unit transfer privilege policy |
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That's been a problem…that the patients don't go to the right services, because they [the emergency department] would call urology and urology would say, “No, I know the patient has kidney stones and kidney failure, but [he] also has bad COPD [chronic obstructive pulmonary disease], so book him to medicine, and we'll just consult.”—Receiving general medicine physician on unit transfer privilege |
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It's pretty smooth sailing…there's really no resistance or push back from the floor…it's pretty straightforward…they don't have the right to refuse patients.—Sending emergency department physician on unit transfer privilege |
| Four‐hour mark |
There's a lot of pushing and shoving on both ends. The emergency department will call at the 3 hr and 59 min mark. When we're really busy in the emergency department, and there are no beds, they are assigned to a hospitalist service. We have four hours. At 3 hr and 50 min, we get calls, “You know you have to assign that?”—Bed management on four‐hour mark |
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What we found is that we'd get a call at that four‐hour mark, but we would find out that the patient has had nothing ordered or no evaluation for hours before that. They would call you with, say, “By the way, it's been four hours, and the patient is having these symptoms and needs you right now.”—Receiving hospitalist physician on four‐hour mark |
| Relationships |
We don't necessarily have the working relationship that we do with the nurses on the floor, so it's harder.—Receiving general medicine physician |
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The implementation is obviously an issue. You have people going to these meetings, and they agree on things, but when it comes to implementing…—Sending emergency physician |
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Resources and relationships, obviously that's a big, huge part of transitions of care that fixes it, relationships.—Sending emergency physician |
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I think having open communication through this emergency department/medicine huddle helps—Sending emergency physician |
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It's nice to know that there's attention to it and both parties are trying to work on it—because sometimes you feel like you're the only one working on the problem.—Receiving nurse |
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They should get to be in the other person's shoes. Do some time up in the intensive care unit. They come down to the emergency department for even if it's like half a day, just to see what it's like. You have that perspective, because when we're calling you to report on the patient, I know you have another sick, sick patient, you really need 15 min, but I may have four intubated patients that need to go to the intensive care unit. You're the only bed open, and I need to relieve one of my problem children to you. Having that understanding that we don't have the ability to stop.—Sending emergency nurse |
| Admission order communication |
| Conflict over calling versus. using the EHR |
I personally feel that the information is in [the electronic medical record], and if we're doing a good job of documenting the patient's condition within our documentation, they [the receiving unit] should see that. We should not need to put another barrier of a phone call in there.–Sending nurse |
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It was just nice to have that little heads‐up. Plus you're talking to another nurse and she can just—you can get a feeling of what's coming your way—Receiving nurse |
| Scope of practice policies |
The other thing is the nursing rules or stuff like that. We're not always clear about those. I think it would be helpful to know what actually is allowed on each floor and what's acceptable, what's not acceptable.—Sending physician |
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“Can you come find the Scope of Practice Policy, because I need to show this doctor that we don't do it?” They don't necessarily trust the word of mouth...—Receiving nurse |
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I think at the end of the day if they're receiving and this is not comfortable, usually from a nursing perspective, then we just—we get stuck and we kind of hold onto the patient.—Sending physician |