| Experience and Expertise Caring for People with CF |
“CF is an autosomal recessive disorder essentially where, in a nutshell, you have these CFTR mutations where secretions in different mutli-organ systems become thick… oftentimes leading to lung transplant later on down the road. But it also affects the liver, pancreas, and then also male reproductive systems. So it’s multi-organ disease.”—Pharmacist 1
“I’ve been able to provide probably only to about two patients that we’ve had with CF—well actually, one with CF”—Pharmacist 3
“I do cover the pulmonology service on the floors. I do all their pharmacokinetics for all their levels, I help them pick the antibiotics, I make sure all their meds are right, I help with their prescriptions, writing them and whatever, if they ever need me to go in and talk to them about something, I certainly would be able to do so”—Pharmacist 6
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Tasks
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| Medication Management Burden |
“the challenging administration options for the administration options for the medications as most of them are inhaled, oftentimes have to do them 3 times a day—to 2 times a day… so it takes up a large portion of these patients’ time”—Pharmacist 1
“I think Cayston®… but it’s a three time a day medication. So, I think even though it only takes three minutes to nebulize, it’s three times a day. I find that patients don’t do medications three times a day. Tobi tends to take between twenty minutes and a half an hour to nebulize… even though it’s only every other month, they tend to struggle in those months because it’s an added medication to their day. They seem to be able to get Pulmozyme® in, although when they travel it’s hard because it’s a refrigerated medication. And then HyperSal® is twice a day and it makes you cough, so—and it tastes bad, so some of the patients don’t want to use the Hyper-Sal because it makes you cough.”—Nurse 4
“I think that one of the main difficulties is just remembering to take the medication… a lot of times patients can get busy and forget to take those dosing of the medications. I think sometimes too, particularly with antibiotics, patients start feeling really well and they decide not to take their medications after they start feeling well. And then on the flip side of things, you can also have patients feel not so well, and they think that their medications are contributing to their poor state and decide not to take their medications.”—Pharmacist 1
“I know that there are medication use challenges that they do experience because they are children. They are not as familiar with how to use a nebulizer. It can be challenging to them.”—Pharmacist 3
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| Medication Education |
“We don’t necessarily expect any local pharmacy, brick and mortar I’m referring to, to do patient teaching for their meds. It’s too complex, too specialized.”—Nurse 3
“I think most people learn best from one on one counseling. If you give someone written materials, it’s more likely than not that they will not be read… we’re very careful about education in our clinic. And we have a dedicated person call a nurse educator… and they tend to meet with the families and go over the finer points about the medications.”—Physician 5
“For our end, with the kind of quiz that we’re doing, that’s actually geared more towards our transition patients, so patients going from teens to adults. I think it’s really important”—Dietician 1
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| Medication Access and Insurance Challenges |
“So, the pharmacy said the medication was denied, then we have to reach out to the insurance company and do a prior auth… if the auth is denied, then we do the appeal… if we can’t get the appeal, then we have to have our physician reach out. We don’t handle the enzyme authorizations or the supplements. We have a dietician that does those.”—Nurse 1
“The drugs can be astonishingly expensive. Some as much as $306,000 a year for Kalydeco for example.”—Physician 5
“coordinating all the prescriptions, right? There’s a lot of fragmentation, right? They’re going to maybe two, three, four pharmacies to get their medicine. And just managing that is a burden.”—Pharmacist 2
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Organization
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| Awareness of Pharmacy-Related Needs |
“They can help with anti-microbial management looking at past cultures and… helping physicians and nurses decide which anti-microbial regiments would be best for the patient to—as to not limit our options for future use based on antimicrobial resistance.”—Pharmacist 1
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| Benefits and Drawbacks of Pharmacist Involvement |
“It’s just infuriating to find out that we think we gave a patient an antibiotic, which was prescribed, and find out eight days later that they haven’t gotten it yet because of insurance hoops, prior authorizations… They’re little snags, but they result in devastating consequences. So, those are all things that a pharmacist can help us with.”—Nurse 3
“more education, maybe more safety for the patients, better outcomes for the patient.”—Dietician 2
“Sometimes we go in and we review their medications when they first come into clinic and we go over what they’re taking. I think if there was a more in-depth conversation.”—Nurse 1
“I think that our nutritionist would like him [the pharmacist] to help in… helping with patients who are interested in our herbal remedies. And what are the food and drug interactions.”—Nurse 5
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Tools and Technologies
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| Technologies that Influence Adherence and Prescribing |
“we used to call all the pharmacists and order them, so we had more interaction than we do now. Now with the electronic medical record and electronic e-prescribing, we have much less interaction. And I find that we probably have, maybe some or more delays to patients getting their meds because of that.”—Nurse 2
“I think that video presentations with graphics followed by a quiz is probably the best way to do it so that they learn and then have to self-reflect and then spit out what the answers are.”—Physician 1
“I think—specifically for young people, videos, apps… some sort of content like that, they can watch it at their own time, rewatch to understand a missing point. And then make notes and reach out to us like, ‘Hey I watched this, and these are the questions I have.’”—Pharmacist 4
“I think that we have a lot online now and we have iPads… that’s what kids really like. They want to see something online”—Nurse 3
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Environment
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| Collaborative Practice Agreements |
“I think that we can help them to streamline some of their therapies, or make adjustments, additions and subtractions, like discontinuations of things as they progress through.”—Pharmacist 7
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| Refill History Access |
“Well a lot of the pharmacies are set up, especially with the expensive drugs, it seems they try to track them more because they have a vested interest to do so. So, we’ll get reminder calls.”—Nurse 2
“[the pharmacists] call us—I think that’s a generous—you know, for refills, they’ll call us, or fax for refills and I think that helps families. Some of the pharmacists call for medication lists because they are kind of keeping an eye on what the family is getting and sending automatic refills to the family.”—Nurse 4
“The most effective test we have right now is lung function testing. And lung function testing is kind of the final common pathway for all therapies. To say if your lungs are good then you must be doing the right thing.”—Physician 5
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