| Bold text shows elements of patients' accounts that a CBT therapist might engage with | | Underlined text shows elements of patients' accounts that a MCT therapist might engage with |
| Possible negative beliefs | Cognitive distortions contained in negative automatic thoughts | | Perseverative negative thinking: worry or rumination | Possible metacognitive beliefs |
| Case 1: Kieran |
| | At the start of the interview, after being asked how he came to be in CR, Kieran recounted events leading to his diagnosis, the diagnostic tests he had undergone and his decision to undergo CABG. RM asked how Kieran felt during the period of diagnostic testing and since CABG:1a. | | |
| | Embarrassed to be honest… somebody says “go on that treadmill” and then after two minutes, “sorry I'm going to have to stop.”
You think“it | | |
| “I did not perform as I should, so I am inadequate” | Imperative | shouldn't be like this, I should be able to go on forever”… it was a bit disappointing, the gradual realization that your health is not as good as you thought it might have been. | Rumination | |
| | Earlier, Kieran had talked about feeling “sorry for” himself; RM now prompted him about this: 1b. | | |
| | You explain to people what you've been through,
you get a bit tearful and you think “oh well, stop feeling sorry for yourself”… snap out of it… you look at other people of a similar | Rumination | |
| Overgeneralization | age… they seem to be a lot fitter than you… I was always fit, all my life, and nowI am the most unfit person I know… | | |
| | RM prompted him about his feeling that having coronary heart disease felt unfair:
1c | | |
| Magnification and minimization | I've worked hard all my life and you see other guys thatyou think haven't worked hard all their lives and they haven't gone to the gym… I get myself reasonably fit and I can't understand, me and them, and they're enjoying themselves. | Rumination | |
| | While responding to a later question about the time that he spent worrying, Kieran introduced talk about his past, and became tearful: 1d. | | |
| | You start to think back to the friends that you had… when you're playing old music and then your memories start flooding back and it can be quite difficult… I've deliberately not done that anymore… you work hard and you're getting toward something when you can perhaps start to slow down and you think | Rumination | |
| “My life would have been better if I had made different choices” | Discounting the positive | “I've got a health problem” and you think “oh where's all my friends,” you left them behind thirty years ago… you move away from your friends and you think“it wasn't worth it.” | Rumination | |
| | RM asked whether he could ever stop feeling sorry for himself: 1e. | | |
| “Retirement will not be as enjoyable as I thought” | Catastrophizing | Only by doing some sort of activity… if you've got a bit more variety in your activities, you're not going to get bored,
you don't then sit down and start dwelling on things that might upset you… the last 5 weeks have been a bit of an eye opener… as you approach retirement you think “I actually quite fancy retiring”… but in this last 5 weeks,this is what retirement is about, I've got to keep working, thank you… your mind would be more active, you can't always be thinking “what can I do now?” | RuminationWorry | “Thinking is uncontrollable” |
| Case 2: Emily |
| | When RM began by asking how she came to be in CR, Emily recounted in detail the evening of her MI, and the treatment that she had received since. RM asked how Emily had felt since the MI:
2a. | | |
| “I am going to have another MI; if I do, I will die” | Catastrophizing | I can't get to sleep… I think if I go to sleep I'm not going to wake up…
I don't even think about it [heart attack] until I go to bed…
[Then] I just re-run everything through my mind, I just re-run that whole Friday night and what if, what if my heart had stopped beating before we'd got to [the hospital] | WorryRumination | “Thinking will help me to find answers” |
| | RM prompted Emily about her fear that she might not wake up:
2b. | | |
| “If I have another MI, I will die” | Catastrophizing | The heart attack to me was not like you would see a heart attack on the TV… the grabbing the chest… you drop to the floor… it wasn't that bad, so in my head… the pain that I had when I had my heart attack, I could sleep through that… I think that's where | Rumination | |
| | the worry comes from, becauseif the same thing happens again, I would probably stay asleep, or what if the stent doesn't hold out… it's all these things going through my head, because it's only a thin little piece of metal” | Worry | “Thinking will help me to be prepared” |
| | After talking about avoiding going to bed due to her fear of not waking up, and about not wishing to disclose her fears in the context of CR, Emily recounted discussing her MI with a friend who had undergone CABG: 2c. | | |
| “I am stupid” | Emotional reasoning | This is why I think
I feel stupid
because he's [friend] had a double heart bypass, I've just had a stent | Rumination | |
| | put in, it's nothing…
I rang him up I said “has it affected you,” and he was like “no… just carrying on with life”… and there's me thinking shit, well why has it affected me, all I've got is a STENT” | Rumination | “Thinking will help me to find answers” |
| | RM prompted Emily to talk more about concerns that she had mentioned earlier, first about her sleep:
2d. | | |
| Catastrophizing | I worry about not being able to sleep when I go back to work,because that would worry me because I need to be able to sleep, so that I can do my job correctly” | Worry | |
| | Then about why she continued to think about the night she had her MI: 2e. | | |
| Catastrophizing | I lie in bed thinking “stop bloody thinking about it… you're alive for god's sake”… I'm tossing and turning but it's still always there, in the back of my mind”…
no matter how many times I run through it… everything that's been said to me… I think the problem is I've got a medical background… I know a bit too much and that doesn't help me at all… it makes it worse”…
[RM: Is it every night you are like this?] “Yeah… there have been nights where I've not slept at all… so in the day time I have fallen asleep on the sofa…in my head it's okay to sleep in the day because somebody would find me. | RuminationWorry | ‘‘Thinking is uncontrollable”;“thinking will help me find answers”; “thinking is harmful” |
| Case 3: Paul |
| | When asked how he came to be in CR, Paul talked about delays in responding to his MI because of GP misdiagnosis, and about this resulting in a worse prognosis than had he been treated for his MI sooner. He also spoke about his Crohn's and kidney diseases. When recounting his kidney transplant, he introduced his feelings about an ex-partner, from whom he had separated 2 years previously. He said he still thinks about their break-up daily. He said that he keeps busy to avoid thinking about this and other concerns and explained:
3a. | | |
| | But now I'm not working and I've got more time on my hands,
I'm my own worst enemy because… the only time I'm alright is when I'm asleep, because then I am not thinking about things… I analyse everything… I'm terrible.” | Rumination | “Thinking is uncontrollable” |
| | Paul explained that he “analyses everything”; and talked again about his previous relationship: 3b. | | |
| “It is all my fault” | Imperatives | I
start analyzing it [past relationship]… I'm trying to assert blame… who's at fault…is it something I could have foreseen and maybe done something about… it's that “if only” scenario when I sit there thinking | Rumination | “Thinking will help me find answers” |
| | “well if only I'd done that, or if only I hadn't said that, if only I'd gone about it this way'… it just goes round and round and round up there… it's easier to blame yourself than it is to blame others” | Rumination | “Thinking will help me find answers” |
| | RM prompted Paul about how much he blamed himself:
3c. | | |
| “It is all my fault” | Imperative | “Quite a lot really…
this you know, could I have foreseen the fact that I was going to have a heart attack,I blame myself for not ringing an ambulance when I should have done… maybe things would have been different, but then if I think like that it's just going to eat away, but it does… I think “god all I had to do is phone nine nine nine… but then I felt alright on Sunday… so you think to yourself “oh I must be alright.” | Rumination | “Thinking will help me find answers” |
| | While discussing how Paul keeps busy to stop thinking like this, he introduced his childhood:
3d. | | |
| “I expect that bad things will always happen to me” | Catastrophizing | My childhood hasn't been brilliant… the relationship with my dad is not very good, he was a bit of a tyrant to say the least…I expect [bad] things to happen because that's the way I sort of see it… if it's going to happen, it's going to happen to me… but it's that analyzing again… if it had been anybody else they wouldn't have probably lost their job over it, whereas I have. | Rumination | “Thinking will help me find answers” |
| Dichotomous thinking | I can't drive a truck anymore, so that's my career gone… I can no longer afford to stay living in me flat… so it's not just a matter of having a heart attack… [another person who has had a heart attack] they've got a partner who they can rely on, and you're just thinking “why me” | | |
| | RM asked Paul how often he thinks about the problems he had told her about:
3e. | | |
| “I am helpless” | Imperative | All the time really… even when I was at work… me mind is ticking away with things all the time… you get home and you just don't seem to be able to switch off.”
[RM: How long have you been thinking about these things?]…
Oh years… as far back as I can remember to be honest… because it wasn't good with my Dad…if I'd have probably been brought up or treated differently… these things might not have happened. | Rumination | “Thinking is uncontrollable” |
| | RM then asked Paul how he copes with feeling low:
3f. | | |
| | I just want to be on my own… I don't want to bump into someone and then I know what they are going to say, “are you alright”… and you've got to go | | |
| Mind reading | “yeah, of course I am… how are you?” And then they start going on about their troubles…
I'm thinking to myself,“you don't know the flaming half of it”… that just makes me feel worse… angry… they're going on about how they've stubbed their toe on a door… these people,there is nothing | Rumination | |
| Magnification and minimization | wrong with them… and you're just thinking I'll swap with you tomorrow… you don't know the half of it'…“I know it's definitely not useful [to think this way], I know it's more harmful than good, I know that… but I still do it.” | | “Thinking is harmful” |
| Case 4: Mary |
| | When Mary discussed what led to her admission to CR at the start of the interview, she talked, not only about her angina, but also about other physical health conditions and about being diagnosed with depression in her twenties, resulting in her taking anti-depressant medication ever since. Mary explained:
4a. | | |
| Catastrophizing | “That [physical health conditions] did all did get me down, and made me cry… I just felt bombarded with hospital appointments…all that plays on my mind… with my work as well…maybe not being able to look after[adult Mary cares for]… so that worries me, putting him somewhere… [I am] worrying about going in and having the stuff [operations] done.” | Worry | |
| | When RM asked Mary to describe her feelings about this impending treatment, she spontaneously introduced her relationship with her husband: 4b. | | |
| “I am worthless” “I am worthless” | Emotional reasoning Emotional reasoning | “Me and my husband are going through a not good patch… just loads of different things which really, really get me down… it's just what goes on in my head…I feel like a worthless person…and my husband makes me feel like that” [Mary becomes tearful]…
[RM: Why do you feel worthless?]
Because I feel like I am made to feel like that…my opinion or anything I say don't mean anything…I feel like it's not worth listening to” | Rumination | |
| | Earlier, Mary had mentioned her fears for her family, mainly for her son whose alcohol consumption concerned her, and for her relationship with her husband. RM now prompted Mary about those concerns:
4c. | | |
| Catastrophizing | It's mainly [my son], I just want him right…
I can't get on with my own life… I can't see further than the day…I can't see a future or anything…because I worry about when he's [husband] coming home from work, what | Worry | |
| | he's going to say, I'm just on pins constantly… he [husband] thinks he is the most marvelous person going | | |
| | RM asked Mary if she was concerned about her cardiac health; Mary responded that she was not, and then spontaneously returned to how she felt about herself:
4d. | | |
| “I am ugly” | Labeling | I mean
I don't like myself,I think I am ugly…I've got low self-esteem about myself, I can't even speak right…
[RM: How long have you been feeling like this for?]…
“A long time… maybe a couple of years I have been feeling like this… I mean I won't even go out, I go shopping and I go to my sister's to get dressed up,I just think everyone's thinking | Rumination | |
| “I am worthless” | Mind reading Emotional reasoning | what a fat ugly cow”
[RM: How often do you think these thoughts?]
every day… if I put make up on, someone will say “oh you look pretty,” I just think they are lying… my sister, she'll say “put a bit of make up on, you'll feel better,” but becauseI feel worthlessI think what's the point. | | |
| | Mary talked more about her concerns for her relationship and her son:
4e. | | |
| | All I want is my family to be right…
all I want is to be happy and I'm just not [crying]…
[RM: so do you spend a lot of time worrying about your family and thinking about all these things?]
All the time… the minute I wake up and the minute I go to sleep… eighty per cent [of the time… thinking about]…
if he's [son] at his flat, I'm worrying myself sick, if he's drinking…when he don't answer his phone, I think he's dead”… | Rumination | “Thinking is uncontrollable” |
| “If my son drinks, the worst will happen” “If my son drinks, the worst will happen” | Catastrophizing Catastrophizing | thinking he's drank himself into a stupor and choked and died…and how am I going to get into his flat, I mean I've been to hospital ten times with him… he broke his jaw twice… the first time I ever went to hospital with him, he ended up having a seizure…every time he drinks, I think he is going to have a fit… I'm just worried sick about him all the time. | Worry | “Thinking will help me to be prepared” |
| | Mary explains that she talks to her husband about her concerns for her son:
4f. | | |
| | My husband seems to dismiss it [concern for her son] and says “oh forget about it, get on with your life”… how can I, what mother would I be?'… I'm his mother and mothers do worry about their kids… especially when it's something like this | Worry | “Thinking is uncontrollable” |
| | [RM: so would you say you can't help it?]
I can't help it, no… if I knew he was alright I'd be happier… I can probably over-analyse a lot of stuff… dealing with something in my head that hasn't happened yet, but maybe it will… I'm sat here worrying myself sick over him… I just can't help it, I can't switch off from it.” | Worry | “Thinking will help me to be prepared” |