| Literature DB >> 28578320 |
Janet Lefroy1, Nicola Roberts1, Adrian Molyneux1, Maggie Bartlett1, Simon Gay2, Robert McKinley1.
Abstract
OBJECTIVES: To determine whether an app-based software system to support production and storage of assessment feedback summaries makes workplace-based assessment easier for clinical tutors and enhances the educational impact on medical students.Entities:
Keywords: feedback culture; technology-enhanced learning; undergraduate medical education; workplace based assessment
Mesh:
Year: 2017 PMID: 28578320 PMCID: PMC5457783 DOI: 10.5116/ijme.5910.dc69
Source DB: PubMed Journal: Int J Med Educ ISSN: 2042-6372
Figure 1Monitoring data for usage of the new WBA and feedback system 2014-15
Examples of comments about the feasibility/ accessibility of an app for WBA
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| Comment 1 | In the hospital it was easier having it on a phone than trying to find an empty monitor. You have to tailor it to the situation if you are with a younger GP or in the hospital where you haven’t got much time you use the app on the phone. If you have got time you use the online version. Student 3(f) Focus Group A |
| Comment 2 | My doctor is an older guy who couldn’t use a phone. He gave it to me and said just tick that. So it wasn’t an assessment. Student 1(m) Focus Group B |
| Comment 3 | I’m used to writing reports …I prefer to reflect a little bit myself and just formulate what it is I want to write down because when I’m giving feedback there’s a lot more communication going on than just verbal feedback… So when you’re writing it in black and white, you have to be a little bit more careful of how you might phrase something. Tutor 5 (GP) |
| Comment 4 | I don’t dictate, because you’re constantly checking the words, I find I actually type faster than I can speak, dictate and check. Tutor 4 (GP) |
| Comment 5 | There’s always that ‘what am I going to say?’ first, you think about it and then you say it. I’m so used to dictating in clinic so I can think what I want to say and it doesn’t faze me. Tutor 10 (H) |
| Comment 6 | You choose your three [strengths or priorities for improvement] which you want to make comment on and it takes you to those and so you’re not having to screen scroll down pages of areas you don’t want to comment upon. Tutor 6 (GP) |
| Comment 7 | There’s still the automatic kind of assumption - I can only really give a short feedback like I normally would. But once you kind of get comfortable to the actual dictation then I think it would help to give more detailed feedback. We give detailed feedback all the time verbally. We just don’t give them any record of it. Tutor 10 (H) |
| Comment 8 | Mine was really good in GP. She wrote everything down in each consultation and then summarised in the GeCoS. Student 2(f) Focus Group A |
Examples of comments about the acceptability of using an app for workplace assessment and its impact on the feedback conversation
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| Comment 9 | Handing over your phone is awkward. Why do the med school expect you to use your (own) phone? Student 4(m) Focus Group A |
| Comment 10 | After looking at them consult I would have given them quite a lot of feedback verbally and then I would use GeCoS to sort of back that up. I might have done it once with them sitting beside me but I found that I’m more concentrating on the computer. I’d rather be concentrating on the student in front of me so I wouldn’t do it that way. It’s an opportunity for them to ask questions. Tutor 5 (GP) |
| Comment 11 | I think you spend more time trying to make the IT work than you do try to make the conversation work, you get distracted by it. It’s a bit like a GP consultation and the role of a computer, the computer is there as an aid and it’s not there to guide the consultation. Patients complain if you spend all the time looking at the screen, so students get frustrated if you’re kind of there texting or whatever it is … the principle of it was brilliant and I am sure it can be made to work a bit better. You know, students live on their phones so that’s great. Tutor 2 (GP) |
| Comment 12 | If we got feedback more often, like in that clinic, like if every placement had something like that, if doctors were more aware of the app it would be so useful for getting feedback, ‘cause it’d just be like right we’re going to do a quick GeCoS now on what you just did, and that’d be great. Student 3(f) Focus Group B |
Examples of comments about the educational impact of the app-based GeCoS workplace assessment system
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| Comment 13 | Within each section there were various descriptors of what you would hope to see in good consulting and those are quite helpful to be able to read through with the student to sort of say these are things that I’m talking about Tutor 5 (GP) |
| Comment 14 | Did you find that your GP people would just tell you anyway? That you didn’t really need the whole formality of (using the app)..? |
| Yeah but they’d forget … whereas if you’d got those bullet points in GeCoS they’d think oh actually you’ve done x, y and z really well, but I forgot to tell you about that. Students 2(f) and 3(f) Focus Group B | |
| Comment 15 | We have lots of discussions erm and then I suppose one of the difficulties is you’re having discussion and then trying to put that in a structured format within GeCoS. |
| Interviewer: So is GeCoS a constraint? | |
| Yes I suppose in some ways it is but if you didn’t have that structure then other areas of feedback might be missed. I don’t know really. I can’t see it working if you didn’t have some formal assessment tool…. I think one of the downsides of it is that it’s so comprehensive that actually sometimes it’s quite hard to find the slot to put your feedback. Then it gives you a structure because otherwise you may end up just with a bit of waffle in a box which could easily turn into very sort of limited value for the student. Tutor 7 (GP) | |
| Comment 16 | I would really like a truthful feedback rather than a tick box thing, nearly a letter from my GP just saying this is what I thought you did really well but this is what you’ve improved on. |
| It’s finding the middle ground, isn’t it? Something that will prompt them but doesn’t then limit them It’s so easy for them to tick the box whereas if they have to physically write something, they have to think about what it is and if they can’t think of anything they don’t write anything, it’s as simple as that. Students 4(m), 6(m) and 2(f) Focus Group B | |
Examples of comments about the value of the app in capturing a written record
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| Comment 17 | I think it’s a good idea because when I give feedback to students it’s not recorded, I just say what I think and they nod away and they say thank you very much, that was useful, but it’s not recorded in any way…They can’t remember everything I say because it’s quite a lot. Tutor 3(H) |
| Comment 18 | I haven’t even opened the GeCoS feedback emails because I sat down and did it with him so I knew exactly what he said. Student 4 (m) Focus Group B |
| Comment 19 | If you do well in GeCoS it doesn’t seem to matter? And if you do badly what does it matter? What is the point of it then? Student 6 (m) Focus Group B |
| Comment 20 | At the end of the day the tool provides a record and it’s great if the students have a record afterwards so they can go back and look at the points but that is a very small part of the interaction, the main part of the interaction is what goes on as you have that meeting. Tutor 2 (GP) |
| Comment 21 | My GP in 3rd year didn’t tell me when he was doing them and I only found out afterwards and that could have been really bad but I found it really useful because he was really honest. At the time he had told me things, but (the written feedback) was really detailed because he had gone and done it in his own time. Student 5 (f) Focus Group A |
| Comment 22 | Mine was really good. He did a GeCoS with my first consultation and then every GeCoS after that he referred back to it. Student 3 (f) Focus Group A |
| Comment 23 | I think you always get better feedback if you’re not there. They can’t say the negative stuff when you are sat there. Student 2 (f) Focus Group B |
| Comment 24 | There was one that I had erm, maybe it was a bit of a cop-out but he was quite tricky, quite difficult to talk with so I used the GeCoS feedback as a means of being a bit more direct in terms of some advice and feedback for him and then he came back to me on it and we had a much more open discussion about it. So in that sense it actually worked quite well ‘cause once it’s written down on paper he took a bit more notice of it. Tutor 7 (GP) |
| Comment 25 | You feel that somewhere at the top there’s people collating data and they want you to fit into that box. Tutor 6 (GP) |