| Literature DB >> 25152740 |
Michael F Schober1, Neta Spiro2.
Abstract
To what extent and in what arenas do collaborating musicians need to understand what they are doing in the same way? Two experienced jazz musicians who had never previously played together played three improvisations on a jazz standard ("It Could Happen to You") on either side of a visual barrier. They were then immediately interviewed separately about the performances, their musical intentions, and their judgments of their partner's musical intentions, both from memory and prompted with the audiorecordings of the performances. Statements from both (audiorecorded) interviews as well as statements from an expert listener were extracted and anonymized. Two months later, the performers listened to the recordings and rated the extent to which they endorsed each statement. Performers endorsed statements they themselves had generated more often than statements by their performing partner and the expert listener; their overall level of agreement with each other was greater than chance but moderate to low, with disagreements about the quality of one of the performances and about who was responsible for it. The quality of the performances combined with the disparities in agreement suggest that, at least in this case study, fully shared understanding of what happened is not essential for successful improvisation. The fact that the performers endorsed an expert listener's statements more than their partner's argues against a simple notion that performers' interpretations are always privileged relative to an outsider's.Entities:
Keywords: collaboration; communication; improvisation; interaction; intersubjectivity; jazz; music; shared understanding
Year: 2014 PMID: 25152740 PMCID: PMC4126153 DOI: 10.3389/fpsyg.2014.00808
Source DB: PubMed Journal: Front Psychol ISSN: 1664-1078
Interview prompts.
| How would you describe the differences in the three performances you two just gave? | What do you think worked and what didn't? |
| How did you know what to do next? | |
| What was the difference in character between these three performances? (Ask if not already covered by response to first question) | What did your partner do that struck you as particularly interesting or notable? |
| Were there any differences in the quality of performance? (Ask if not already covered by response to first question) | Did anything strike you as particularly notable about your own performance? |
| How easy or hard was it to play with your partner? Why (Please be as specific as you can)? Did this change over time? | Were there any moments that you had trouble playing together? Do you remember when they were? |
| What did your partner do that struck you as particularly interesting or notable? (Please be as specific as you can, and about in which version) | Can you point at particular musical choices you made that your partner picked up on? That your partner didn't pick up on? |
| Did anything strike you as particularly notable about your own performance? (Please be as specific as you can, and about in which version) | Did your partner make particular musical choices that you recognized while you were playing? That you rejected? |
| Were there any moments that you had trouble playing together? Do you remember when they were? | |
| Can you describe, as specifically as possible, how you reached agreement—for each version—on how to start, how to structure the piece (e.g., improvising or not, soloing or not, how many choruses), and how to end the piece? | |
| Did you feel that someone was in charge? Did this change during your performances? Was it different in the different versions? How did you know? | |
| Can you point at particular musical choices you made that your partner picked up on? That your partner didn't pick up on? | |
| Did your partner make particular musical choices that you recognized while you were playing? That you picked up on or rejected? |
Figure 1Start of questionnaire part (b)—generalizable statements that could apply to all three performances.
Figure 2Positioning of pianist and sax player, on either side of a screen onstage in the performance space.
Average endorsement (both players) for generalizable statements.
| Performance 1 | 2.0 | 2.8 | |
| Performance 2 | 2.1 | 2.3 | |
| Performance 3 | 3.1 | 3.2 | |
Ratings about the original performance are in bold.
Figure 3Percent of the 151 statements originally made by themselves, the outside listener, and their partner that the pianist and saxophonist endorsed (by selecting 4 or 5 on the 5-point scale).
Inter-rater agreement (Cohen's kappa), calculated with three categories: both endorse, both neutral, both dissent (Categories with too few statements for kappa to be calculated are not reported).
| Overall | 217 | 0.378 | 0.320 | |
| Saxophonist | 62 | 0.583 | 0.282 | |
| Pianist | 90 | 0.311 | 0.203 | |
| Outside listener | 50 | 0.063 | 0.203 | |
| 1 | 64 | 0.547 | 0.502 | |
| 2 | 64 | 0.333 | 0.307 | |
| 3 | 85 | 0.235 | 0.158 | |
| Specific | 114 | 0.279 | 0.095 | |
| Generalizable | 99 | 0.466 | 0.355 | |
Performers' levels of agreement with each other are in bold.
Inter-rater agreement (Cohen's kappa) calculated assuming that neutral ratings by one party constitute agreement with the other's endorsement or dissent (Categories with too few statements for kappa to be calculated are not reported).
| Overall | 217 | 0.463 | 0.414 | |
| Saxophonist | 62 | 0.640 | 0.447 | |
| Pianist | 90 | 0.446 | 0.304 | |
| Outside listener | 50 | 0.074 | 0.199 | |
| 1 | 64 | 0.595 | 0.554 | |
| 2 | 64 | 0.510 | 0.438 | |
| 3 | 85 | 0.267 | 0.264 | |
| Specific | 114 | 0.331 | 0.165 | |
| Generalizable | 99 | 0.556 | 0.496 | |
Performers' levels of agreement with each other are in bold.
Figure 4Distribution of players' agreement for the 151 unique statements. “Perfect agreement” means that both players gave exactly the same rating (from 1 to 5 on the 5-point scale); “substantial agreement” means that both players' ratings differed by only 1 point and they were either both endorsements or both dissents; “possible agreement” means that one of the players' ratings was neutral and the other's was not, which could either be seen as agreement or disagreement; and “disagreement” means that ratings differed by 3 or 4 rating points.
Figure 5AStatements with perfect agreement where both players endorsed the statement or were neutral.
Figure 6Players' ratings of the generalizable statements for all three recordings.
Elaborations by players on why they had dissented.
| Throughout this performance, the sax phrased in a way that made clear that the next chord was coming. | 1 | Saxophonist | As we were playing each example I let the piano establish the harmonic progression and chose to follow rather than lead. |
| Throughout this performance, the sax phrased in a way that made clear that the next chord was coming. | 3 | Saxophonist | As we were playing each example I let the piano establish the harmonic progression and chose to follow rather than lead. |
| During these two choruses starting at about 1:22 the sax hears and uses the pianist's substitutions. | 1 | Saxophonist | I only disagree here because it took me a little longer than I would have liked to figure out those substitutions. I don't remember “playing” them, but rather fumbling over them at first. I knew something interesting harmonically was happening, I just couldn't figure it out fast enough. Although it is a very simple and very well-used technique.:) |
| The pianist gave a cue to end at about 6:00 by using the pedal. | 1 | Saxophonist | … it's hard to make any definitive claims as to what was being done in an improvisation, but perhaps the use of a pedal was a clue to me to wrap it up. |
| At about 1:38 the piano accompaniment is fragmented, staccato chords in unpredictable places, some quite dissonant. | 3 | Saxophonist | What seems dissonant to one person could very well sound beautiful and melodic to another. Taste is subjective. |
| This version had the most motion. | 3 | Pianist | The word motion is kind of abstract… I was thinking more about the overall arc of the tune? That means we start in one place and we go through certain things and then we end in another place, and I consider that is like a good motion for a whole song. And I think that Take 3 didn't have that as strongly as the other ones… That's just a matter of what we call motion in a tune. |
| From about 5:32 the pianist imitated the sax's short notes. | 3 | Pianist | I didn't catch that from listening to it right now, I don't know. It's kind of an open part and he plays something but it almost sounds like I was looking in the wrong spot… he's not really playing the short notes, I think from what I just heard. |
| Throughout this performance, the sax played the root of the next chord to cue it. | 2 | Saxophonist | Playing the root throughout would not be something I could see myself doing. Maybe a for a few measures if there was uncertainty of what we were actually playing, but since that was not the case here I don't think I would have to do that very much. |
| At about 0:17 the piano changes the quality to Phrygian, signaling a more functional dominant. | 1 | Saxophonist | When I'm in the moment, I don't have the luxury nor the interest to think to myself “Oh, he went Phrygian there… so I'll play THIS scale.” It doesn't work like that for me. If I was able to hear that texture and react to it in the moment, great but if not great. 0:17 is already in the past and we're on to other music. |
| At about 2.21, the sax started a phrase on B flat. | 1 | Saxophonist | This seems like a very subjective observation. I could have used a Bb in my line but who knows if I conscientiously made a move to “Bb.” |
| At about 2.21 the reason that the sax started a phrase on B flat was that the pianist had played a B flat. | 1 | Saxophonist | Again, it's all subjective. Maybe I did play a Bb off of the piano's Bb, but if we were to do this tomorrow I might play another note altogether. |
| At about 2:37, the pianist forced a rushed rhythm that didn't fit. | 1 | Saxophonist | It's hard to imagine “rushing a rhythm in to fit.” There was elasticity in the takes, some more than others but when playing duo like this and not married to a bass player and/or drummer “time” is all relative. |
| At about 3:09, the last chord of the solo, the pianist put a chord in the wrong place. | 1 | Saxophonist | Who is to say what is “wrong” or what is “right”? There is no wrong or right, there just is. That is JAZZ. Just because it might have been unexpected does not make it “wrong.” |
| The sax gave a cue to end at about 5:58 by playing louder and in F. | 1 | Saxophonist | Again, it's hard to make any definitive claims as to what was being done in an improvisation. |
| The pianist's chord at about 1:23 didn't work. | 2 | Saxophonist | Who's to say what works and what doesn't work? |
| At 1:57 to 2:03 the sax plays a “turnaround” at the end of the melody to get back to the top of the sax solo. | 2 | Saxophonist | Labeling and analyzing of playing is all and well, but it's not how I think when playing. It's a sound that I will use at the end of a chorus to get to the top. It may or may not be a “turnaround” but again, who is making these calls? |
| At 1:57 to 2:03 because the piano does not pick up the turnaround, things are a bit discombobulated between the two players. | 2 | Saxophonist | If anything, when things seem “wrong” or “discombobulated” it often is a time for the players to really explore the limits of improvisation where they are forced to abandon their clichés and licks and find their way back to calmer waters but it is so hard to say “wrong.” |
| At about 2:05 the players find the top together and are OK again. | 2 | Saxophonist | Tied into [previous elaboration], when improvising in a duo there is freedom harmonically, melodically, and rhythmically. There are no “rules” and the players determine when and where to “get off” without any predetermined thoughts or plan. |
| At about 2:22 the sax signaled the next chord by playing a diminished scale and getting louder and quieter. | 2 | Saxophonist | Again it's too hard to say for sure that just because a certain scalar passage was played that it determined or signaled a next chord. Even when playing in “free” time, if you are playing a “tune” then there is a certain harmonic blueprint that no matter how you manipulate or extrapolate it, it is always going on subconsciously in your brain and regardless of what liberties are taken in the moment, players will organically gravitate toward moments that they can “ground” themselves back in. |
| The sax expected to have accompaniment during “Fried Bananas.” | 3 | Saxophonist | How can anybody say for sure what another person was expecting or not? It doesn't make sense. Since this is all happening on the fly, the players need to be ready for anything. |
| At 4:38 the pianist rushed a little bit. | 3 | Saxophonist | I don't believe that one can “rush” when there is no absolute “time.” Flexibility in time is what gives improvisation in this context its sense of freedom. |
| When it's rushed, it's not just the tempo, it feels rushed. | 3 | Saxophonist | What “feels” rushed to a listening or someone analyzing tapes most likely doesn't “feel” the same to the players. In the context of a duo performance, any player has the authority to change tempos when and if they feel like it. But since there are no other “time keepers” (bass or drums) to lock the performers into “tempo,” the time can rush or slow down at their liking. |
| At about 4:52 the sax intended to play another chorus. | 3 | Saxophonist | How can one be so sure that the sax player “intended” to play another chorus? There have been plenty of times in my performance career when improvising you decide at the last minute—“Ok, that was enough. Do I really NEED to play ANOTHER chorus?” Most often, I decide that I do not need to play another chorus and just get out of the tune. |
| From about 6:17 because the piano tried to change the mode and the sax did not, there are a few bars that sound harmonically uncoordinated. | 3 | Saxophonist | More issues with what sounds “right” or “wrong.” When improvising it may take some time for the players to get on the “same page” but it is the search and the journey to find where they are going that is the great joy of improvisation. |
| The pianist's time feel was rushed. | 3 | Saxophonist | The pianist had a really great time feel throughout each of the three takes. At no time did I feel he was rushing. |
| This was not the best performance. | 3 | Saxophonist | I think that I felt that this take was “better” than other takes we did. |
| The communication in this take was not as good as it could have been. | 3 | Saxophonist | I felt like communication was great throughout each of the three takes. That's the beauty of using your ears and playing through improvisation. |
| When the pianist played in the same range as the sax at about 1:37, the pianist was stepping on the sax's toes. | 1 | Saxophonist | I felt that the pianist was very tasteful throughout and at no time felt like my toes were being stepped on. Even in the same range. If anything, it created a unique texture that is often overlooked because of the range of the piano. |
| When the pianist played a solo line over the sax from 1:53 to 1:59, the pianist was stepping on the sax's toes. | 1 | Saxophonist | Again, to me I did not feel like my toes were being stepped on throughout the recording. |
| The pianist's continuation of the sax's phrasing at about 2:55 was “stepping on the sax's toes.” | 2 | Saxophonist | There was no stepping on the sax player's toes.:) |
| This performance was the most enjoyable of the three. | 3 | Pianist | Overall communication there were the most things happening that were not together… Everybody was expecting the other guy to do something else the most times out of all the three takes… the first two takes were much better in that sense. |
| This version took the most harmonic liberties. | 3 | Pianist | Take 2 was the one with the most harmonic liberties, because it was free of form, it was out of time… more than the first and third take as far as the harmony involved. |
| The sax was more responsible than the pianist for the quality of this take. | 3 | Pianist | About the saxophone… I'm saying he wasn't the one leading… I started playing by myself, I was expecting him to go certain places and… he didn't go to some of them but I think… I couldn't expect him to follow me in that sense. But the idea of me leading the take is more true than my following him. |
| In the last phrase the sax played, the sax was “fishing” to get out of the tune. | 2 | Pianist | When you say somebody's fishing for the ending that means… that it's not together and they are not sure where they are or what's supposed to happen but from what I heard that sound is really clear. But on the other hand I think I was kind of leading/forcing… that sort of ending and he was kind of following what I was doing… that particular phrase at least was more him following my harmony. |
| The pianist's opening was excellent. | 3 | Pianist | In general I tend to judge and criticize myself a lot so… I don't like to hear “excellent” along with my intro.… I had this idea in mind to play one chorus by myself, and then the other guy is going to play a chorus, and we're kind of going to trade choruses. But he didn't come in on the second chorus and it's kind of obvious because there weren't a lot of chances of his predicting exactly that. That's a pretty far out thing to predict when you're not talking or seeing. I think that's why I cannot say it was excellent because I could either have made it more obvious for it to work or think of a different idea. It's not about what I'm actually playing for the first chorus when I'm playing by myself. I jumped right into the song, it's not a real intro actually. |