| Literature DB >> 36151513 |
Ala Fadilah1, Quentin Clare1, Anthony Richard Hart2.
Abstract
BACKGROUND: The neurological examination of an unwell neonate can aid management, such as deciding if hypothermia treatment is warranted in hypoxic ischaemic encephalopathy or directing investigations in hypotonic neonates. Current standardised examinations are not designed for unwell or ventilated neonates, and it is unclear how confident paediatricians feel about the examination or what aspects they perform. AIM: This study aimed to review the confidence of UK paediatricians on the neurological examination in unwell neonates, describe their attitudes towards it, and determine what could improve practice.Entities:
Keywords: Brain; Diagnosis differential; Education; Hypoxia-ischaemic; Infant; Medical; Neurologic examination; Neurology; Newborn
Mesh:
Year: 2022 PMID: 36151513 PMCID: PMC9502918 DOI: 10.1186/s12887-022-03616-4
Source DB: PubMed Journal: BMC Pediatr ISSN: 1471-2431 Impact factor: 2.567
Responses to the survey questions on attitudes to the neurological examination in an unwell neonate
| Question | Possible Answers | Whole cohort | By Grade | By speciality | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Scale 0–6, where 0 = never; 3 = about half the time; 6 = all the time | 4 (IQR 3–6; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 3–6; range 0–6) | 5 (IQR 3–6; range 1–6) | 3.5 (IQR 3–5.25; range 2–6) | 5 (IQR 3.25–6; range 1–6) | 4 (IQR 3–6; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–5.75; range 1–6) | ||
| Scale 0–6, where 0 = not at all confident; 3 = somewhat confident; 6 = completely confident | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–5) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 5 (IQR 4–5; range 2–6) | 3.5 (IQR 2–4; range 1–5) | 4 (IQR 4–5; range 1–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 5 (IQR 4–5; range 3–6) | ||
| 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 2 (IQR 1–3.25; range 0–5) | 3 (IQR 3–4; range 0–6) | 4.5 (IQR 4–5; range 2–6) | 3 (IQR 1.75–4.25; range 0–5) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 5 (IQR 4–5; range 2–6) | |||
| 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 2 (IQR 1–3.25; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 2.75–5; range 1–6) | 5 (IQR 4–5; range 2–6) | 3 (IQR 2.75–4.25; range 0–5) | 4 (IQR 4–5; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 2–5; range 0–6) | 5 (IQR 4–5; range 2–6) | |||
| 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 2 (IQR 0.75–3; range 0–5) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–5) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 2.5 (IQR 1.5–3.25; range 0–5) | 4 (IQR 2.5–5; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 3–4; range 2–6) | |||
| Scale 0–6, where 0 = never; 3 = about half the time; 6 = every time | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 2 (IQR 1–3.25; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 1.75–4; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 1–6) | 2 (IQR 1–2.25; range 0–5) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 1.5 (IQR 1–2; range 1–4) | ||
| Scale 0–6, where 0 = not at all well; 3 = somewhat well; 6 = completely well | 3 (IQR 2–3; range 0–6) | 2.5 (IQR 2–3; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–5) | 3 (IQR 2–3; range 0–5) | 2.5 (IQR 1–3.25; range 0–4) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–5) | 3 (IQR 2–3; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–3; range 1–5) | ||
| I have never used it in a neonate | 30/168 (17.9%) | 6/22 (27.3%) | 9/58 (15.5%) | 14/83 (16.9%) | 1/5 (20%) | 6/52 (11.5%) | 23/101 (22.8%) | 1/15 (6.7%) | ||
| I used this in the past, but I do not use it routinely now | 20/168 (11.9%) | 3/22 (13.6%) | 8/58 (13.8%) | 9/83 (10.8%) | 0/5 (0%) | 11/52 (21.2%) | 9/101 (8.9%) | 0/15 (0%) | ||
| I use this in specific cases only | 33/168 (19.6%) | 5/22 (22.7%) | 10/58 (17.2%) | 18/83 (21.7) | 0/5 (0%) | 8/52 (15.4%) | 22/101 (21.8%) | 3/15 (20.0%) | ||
| I use this routinely in most neonates | 85/168 (50.6%) | 8/22 (36.4%) | 31/58 (53.5%) | 42/83 (50.6%) | 4/5 (80%) | 27/52 (51.9%) | 47/101 (46.5%) | 11/15 (73.3%) | ||
| I have never used it in a neonate | 102/168 (60.7%) | 18/22 (81.8%) | 37/59 (62.7%) | 44/82 (53.7%) | 3/5 (60.0%) | 25/52 (48.1%) | 71/100 (71.0%) | 6/16 (37.5%) | ||
| I used this in the past, but I do not use it routinely now | 27/168 (16.1%) | 2/22 (9.1%) | 7/59 (11.9%) | 17/82 (20.7%) | 1/5 (20.0%) | 8/52 (15.4%) | 16/100 (16.0%) | 3/16 (18.8%) | ||
| I use this in specific cases only | 32/168 (19.0%) | 2/22 (9.1%) | 13/59 (22.0%) | 16/82 (19.5%) | 1/5 (20.0%) | 16/52 (30.7%) | 10/100 (10.0%) | 6/16 (37.5%) | ||
| I use this routinely in most neonates | 7/168 (4.2%) | 0/22 (0%) | 2/59 (3.4%) | 5/82 (6.1%) | 0/5 (0%) | 3/52 (5.8%) | 3/100 (3.0%) | 1/16 (6.2%) | ||
| I have never used it in a neonate | 101/165 (61.2%) | 15/22 (68.2%) | 40/59 (67.8%) | 43/79 (54.4%) | 3/5 (60.0%) | 25/52 (48.1%) | 71/99 (71.7%) | 5/14 (35.7%) | ||
| I used this in the past, but I do not use it routinely now | 14/165 (8.5%) | 1/22 (4.5%) | 4/59 (6.8%) | 9/79 (11.4%) | 0/5 (0%) | 3/52 (5.8%) | 10/99 (10.1%) | 1/14 (7.2%) | ||
| I use this in specific cases only | 35/165 (21.2%) | 5/22 (22.8%) | 9/59 (15.3%) | 20/79 (25.3%) | 1/5 (20.0%) | 19/52 (36.5%) | 11/99 (11.1%) | 5/14 (35.7%) | ||
| I use this routinely in most neonates | 15/165 (9.1%) | 1/22 (4.5%) | 6/59 (10.1%) | 7/79 (8.9%) | 1/5 (20.0%) | 5/52 (9.6%) | 7/99 (7.1%) | 3/14 (21.4%) | ||
| I have never used it in a neonate | 148/163 (90.8%) | 22/22 (100%) | 54/59 (91.5%) | 67/77 (87.0%) | 5/5 (100%) | 46/52 (88.5%) | 89/97 (91.8%) | 13/14 (92.9%) | ||
| I used this in the past, but I do not use it routinely now | 7/163 (4.3%) | 0/22 (0%) | 1/59 (1.7%) | 6/77 (7.8%) | 0/5 (0%) | 3/52 (5.8%) | 4/97 (4.1%) | 0/14 (0%) | ||
| I use this in specific cases only | 6/163 (3.7%0 | 0/22 (0%) | 3/59 (5.1%) | 3/77 (3.9%) | 0/5 (0%) | 2/52 (3.8%) | 3/97 (3.1%) | 1/14 (7.1%) | ||
| I use this routinely in most neonates | 2/163 (1.2%) | 0/22 (0%) | 1/59 (1.7%) | 1/77 (1.3%) | 0/5 (0%) | 1/52 (1.9%) | 1/97 (1.0%) | 0/14 (0%) | ||
| I have never used it in a neonate | 140/164 (85.3%) | 22/22 (100%) | 52/59 (88.1%) | 64/78 (82.1%) | 2/5 (40.0%) | 42/52 (80.8%) | 86/97 (88.6%) | 12/15 (80.0%) | ||
| I used this in the past, but I do not use it routinely now | 8/164 (4.9%) | 0/22 (0%) | 3/59 (5.1%) | 5/78 (6.4%) | 0/5 (0%) | 2/52 (40.0%) | 5/97 (5.2%) | 1/15 (6.7%) | ||
| I use this in specific cases only | 10/164 (6.1%) | 0/22 (0%) | 2/59 (3.4%) | 6/78 (7.7%) | 2/5 (40.0%) | 5/52 (9.6%) | 3/97 (3.1%) | 2/15 (13.3%) | ||
| I use this routinely in most neonates | 6/164 (3.7%) | 0/22 (0%) | 2/59 (3.4%) | 3/78 (3.8%) | 1/5 (20.0%) | 3/52 (5.8%) | 3/97 (3.1%) | 0/15 (0%) | ||
*General paediatrics and responders from other specialities, such as Emergency Paediatrics, Gastroenterology, and so forth
Responses to the survey questions confidence of specific aspects of the neurological examination in unwell neonates
| Question | Possible Answers | Whole cohort | By Grade | By speciality | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Conscious level | Scale 0–6, where 0 = not at all easy; 3 = somewhat easy; 6 = completely easy | 4 (IQR 2.75–5; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 1 (IQR 1–5); range 1–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 2–5; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 3–4; range 1–6) | |
| Quantity of spontaneous movements | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 1–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 1–5; range 1–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 1–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 1–5) | ||
| Quality of movements | 4 (IQR 3–4; range 0–6) | 3.5 (IQR 2–5; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 2.5–4; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 3–4; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 2–4; range 1–6) | 4 (IQR 3–4; range 1–6) | 4 (IQR 2.75–5; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 3–4; range 2–5) | ||
| Limb tone | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 3.25–5; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 1–6) | 4 (IQR 3–4; range 2–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 2–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 3–5; range 2–6) | ||
| Truncal tone | 4 (IQR 2–5; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4.75; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 2–5; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 2–4; range 1–6) | 2 (IQR 2–4; range 2–4) | 3.5 (IQR 2–4.25; range 1–6) | 4 (IQR 2–5; range 0–6) | 3.5 (IQR 3–5; range 1–6) | ||
| Muscle power | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–3.75; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 2 (IQR 2–3; range 2–4) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 1–5) | ||
| Deep tendon reflexes | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 2 (IQR 1.25–3; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 1 (IQR 1–1; range 0–1) | 3 (IQR 1–4; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 1–6) | ||
| Primitive reflexes | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 5 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 3–3; range 2–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 1–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 5 (IQR 3.5–5; range 3–6) | ||
| Cranial nerve function | 2 (IQR 1–3; range 0–6) | 2 (IQR 1–3; range 0–4) | 2 (IQR 0–3; range 0–6) | 2 (IQR 1–3; range 0–6) | 1 (IQR 0–1; range 0–2) | 2 (IQR 1–3; range 0–4) | 2 (IQR 0–3; range 0–6) | 2 (IQR 2–3; range 0–5) | ||
| Anterior fontanelle | 6 (IQR 5–6; range 2–6) | 6 (IQR 4–6; range 2–6) | 6 (IQR 5–6; range 3–6) | 6 (IQR 5–6; range 3–6) | 6 (IQR 4–6; range 3–6) | 6 (IQR 5–6; range 3–6) | 6 (IQR 5–6; range 2–6) | 5.5 (IQR 5–6; range 4–6) | ||
| Pupillary responses | 5 (IQR 4–5.5; range 0–6) | 5 (IQR 3–6; range 1–6) | 5 (IQR 4–5; range 0–6) | 5 (IQR 4–5; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 4–6; range 2–6) | 5 (IQR 4–6; range 2–6) | 5 (IQR 4–5; range 0–6) | 5 (IQR 3.75–6; range 2–6) | ||
| Visual ability | 3 (IQR 1–4; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 2.5 (IQR 1–4; range 0–6) | 0 (IQR 0–1; range 0–5) | 2 (IQR 1–3.5; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 1–4; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | ||
| Eye movements | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 2 (IQR 1–3; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 1 (IQR 0–2; range 0–6) | 2 (IQR 1.75–4; range 0–6) | 2 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | ||
| Facial expression | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2.25–4; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 2 (IQR 2–4; range 1–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 3 (IQR 2–4; range 0–6) | 3.5 (IQR 2.75–4; range 1–6) | ||
| Fundal examination | 1 (IQR 0–3; range 0–6) | 0.5 (IQR 0–2; range 0–4) | 1 (IQR 0–2.5; range 0–5) | 2 (IQR 0–3; range 0–6) | 1 (IQR 1–2; range 0–3) | 2 (IQR 0–3; range 0–6) | 1 (IQR 0–2; range 0–5) | 2 (IQR 0.75–3; range 0–5) | ||
| Gag | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 3.5 (IQR 2–5; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 3–5; range 0–6) | 5 (IQR 4–5; range 0–6) | 5 (IQR 3–6; range 2–6) | 5 (IQR 4.5–6; range 2–6) | 4 (IQR 2–5; range 0–6) | 4 (IQR 4–5.5; range 0–6) | ||
| Suck | 5 (IQR 4–6; range 2–6) | 5.5 (IQR 4–6; range 2–6) | 5 (IQR 4–6; range 2–6) | 5 (IQR 5–6; range 2–6) | 5 (IQR 3–6; range 2–6) | 5 (IQR 5–6; range 2–6) | 5 (IQR 4–6; range 2–6) | 5 (IQR 4–6; range 3–6) | ||
*General paediatrics and responders from other specialities, such as Emergency Paediatrics, Gastroenterology, and so forth
Fig. 1Summary of main themes and subthemes
Illustrative quotations for Theme 1—current culture on neonatal units
| Subtheme | Quotation | Interviewee (No., Grade, Speciality, Gender) |
|---|---|---|
| Obvious who needs hypothermia treatment | I suppose, often, you put it down to a gut-feeling, um, without sort of doing a systematic, structured examination | 2, Tr, PNeurol, M |
| Emergency and procedures are prioritised | Priority is always, and rightfully so, “ABC”—they are the priority. But, yeah, a neuro exam, a proper neuro exam, is definitely taken back-seat to the tasks, the ‘fun’. Neonatal, task-orientated trainees want to do lines and tubes and X-rays and all that exciting stuff, rather than wash your hands and lay your hand on the baby and actually examine the baby | 4, Tr, Neo, M |
| Other systems are seen as more important | Because people find [other systems] life-threatening that they can support immediately, whereas the bit of the neurological examination that you need to support is the respiratory component….So, it’s not a system that you immediately support | 3, C, Neo, M |
| Don’t see usefulness of neurological examination | I’m not sure that I get any useful information about… when I assess sick babies from the neurological point of view. And I’m not sure how useful that is in the long term. That’s probably why | 10, C, Neo, M |
| if you don’t think it’s important, then you’re not going to do it. But sometimes you don’t think it’s important because you don’t understand why it’s important, | 21, Tr, Paed, F | |
| Neurological examination is time consuming | In my head there’s this, er, idea that neurological examination is really time-consuming | 18, Tr, Paed, F |
| Cannot examine after muscle relaxation | It’s only when you sort of get to a point of stabilisation, erm, and after the stabilisation has occurred, that people remember, ‘maybe we should do a neurological examination’, which of course is difficult to do if they’ve been muscle relaxed | 11, C, Paed, M |
| Relying on other investigations rather than neurological examination | When it comes to neurological assessment and management, we get driven by tests rather than clinical assessment. This my feeling | 16, C, Paed, M |
| Important | It is an absolutely essential part of the examination, so it needs to be done. It is invaluable information for err very important decision making | 9, C, Neo, F |
| Justifying decisions about hypothermia | The documentation is for someone else to understand why I did what I did, which is really important for me. It’s not because ten years later lawyers will sue me | 5, C, Neo, M |
| Importance of monitoring change over time | Although there are many ways of assessing a neurological system of a newborn, what is important is the trend. We look at the change over time in a sequence of neurological assessments to be able to determine the status and the prognosis | 14, C, Neo, F |
| The neurological examination is fun! | I think examination skills in people need to be inspired by the senior doctors: to see the importance and the pleasure you can get from being a Sherlock Holmes and looking out… looking out for signs and making a clever diagnosis. It can be a motivation, can’t it? | 12, C, PNeurol, M |
| The neurological examination is quick | They don’t realise how quick it is, if you just learn to do it properly it’s very quick | 14, C, Neo, F |
| It should not disturb a sick baby | The neurological examination doesn’t disturb the baby. Unless you have to sit and turn around and put him prone and all of that, but the neurological examination of the baby that is sick should not include any of these | 14, C, Neo, F |
| Aspects can be performed / observed at times of procedures | I do a lot of lines still. I see that as an opportunity really. How babies react to procedures tells you a lot about them and neurology is part of it… I see procedures as an opportunity to assess babies even better because you are spending a lot of time next to them | 5, C, Neo, M |
| Sedation | I certainly think [examining a sedated baby] is worth it. As long as you are aware… you document that they are on a medication that is going to affect the neurological examination. But you wouldn’t not do a respiratory examination because they’re intubated. You wouldn’t not do a cardio examination because they’re on cardiac medications. You’re still going to do those assessments. And I think people always would do those assessments. But for some reason they don’t in neurology because they’re on neurology medications | 2, Tr, PNeurol, M |
| Cardiovascular instability | When they become unstable physiologically it becomes effectively impossible to safely do it | 11, C, Paed, M |
| Time and developmental care philosophies | When you are in the neonatal unit the nurses… there’s always this thing in the nurses eyes, “don’t disturb the baby!” | 18, Tr, Paed, F |
| Communicating results via telephone | If you ring… somebody rings you in the middle of the night, um, which happened last weekend… it’s really hard to get a sense of how people assess neurological status or degree of encephalopathy | 5, C, Neo, M |
| Don’t actually know how to do a neurological examination | A lot of what we do is, you know, extrapolated from children at adult settings, where it’s just not really appropriate | 7, C, Neo, M |
| I think it’s a general reluctance and that’s not because people are lazy, I think it’s because people don’t know what they are doing. And so… people would rather go and do other things than do the neurology | 8, Tr, Neo, F | |
| I think everybody is afraid of the neurological exam. Everyone is afraid of getting it wrong erm and for some reason it’s very daunting | 21, Tr, Paed, F | |
| Understanding what abnormal signs mean and interpreting the results | So, people can do the individual bits, but what they don’t know is, how to work out what that picture truly signifies. And I suspect we’re all doing that for Neurology | 3, C, Neo, M |
| No agreed structure to the examination | The dedicated, sequential neurological assessment is lacking in neonatal set-up | 16, C, Paed, M |
| Poor or no training | We don’t teach it in medical school very well. We don’t stress about it in the medical curriculum at all. So there are days and days of teaching about how to examine the upper limb and how to examine the lower limb in an adult. But there is very little teaching in the medical school about neurological examination in the newborn infant | 9, C, Neo, F |
| Doctors don’t get any dedicated neonatal neurology examination training | 16, C, Paed, M | |
| There’s a lack of interest in the neurological assessment of children and babies. Full stop. And the training is grossly inadequate | 10, C, Neo, M | |
| I think everybody, sort of, assumes that you can do it and that you will pick it up as you go along | 19, Tr, Paed, F | |
| Don’t know how to document it | I think we don’t have sometimes the words and the structures to document what we see in front of us | 7, C, Neo, M |
| Consultants struggle too | I don’t think consultants do it very well | 23, C, PNeurol, F |
| No modelling by consultants | Trainees just don’t see enough neurological examinations being done. I think that’s part of the issue | 1, SG, PNeurol, F |
| Assessing competency | Sadly, I have not even done any CEXs for them about, you know, examinations | 17, C, Paed, F |
| Wider problem involving all of paediatrics | I think to a degree it is the same across all ages in the neurological examination. But I think it’s… it’s more so exaggerated in neonates. Because I think people find the examination more difficult | 2, Tr, PNeurol, M |
| I think neurology, generally, if I go back, you know, years and years, I think it is probably the thing that people are the least comfortable with for whatever reason. I don’t think it’s specific to neonates. So, I think in paediatrics it’s the same: people don’t really examine the neurology properly | 8, Tr, Neo, F | |
| Avoidance or cursory examination | You’d always think, “Oh, this is not an emergency, I’ll let someone else do that or someone who kind of knows what they’re doing.” | 1, SG, PNeurol, F |
| One of my bug bears that I think that people often go with ‘AF normal, tone okay’. That’s not really a neurological examination. That is a box-ticking exercise | 9, C, Neo, F | |
| Legitimate challenges become excuses | So, because we don’t think hard enough about it, we use, for want of a better expression, excuses to not do the examination rather than think about… when, with another system like respiratory, we think about ‘oh what can I do?’, with neurology, we default to ‘I can’t do that’ | 9, C, Neo, F |
| So similarly, um, we perhaps shouldn’t, you know, be using [the fact the baby is sick] as an excuse because obviously there can be findings there that determine how we manage this patient and whether the management will be different, or not | 18, Tr, Paed, F | |
| It is almost a… a get out-of-jail card if they’re on medications that affect your nervous system because people will just say, “can’t assess neurology because… because they’re on such and such medication.” | 2, Tr, PNeurol, M | |
| I don’t think the nurses would stop you if you wanted to assess the baby—that’s an excuse! | 17, C, Paed, F | |
| Delayed or missed diagnoses | There’s lots of, sort of, anecdotal stories, isn’t there, of babies who, you know, it’s only a week later that someone realises they’re not really moving their legs and they’ve got a spinal cord problem for example or, um, they’ve got a… I don’t know, they’ve got some focal signs that it would have been helpful or… you know, they should have had a scan earlier or something like that | 1, SG, PNeurol, F |
| Self-taught or trained abroad | Because my training was from a different, distant country, examination was… was drilled in. If you didn’t do an examination properly you were properly told off | 6, C, Neo, M |
| I read lots of things about it. And I tried it out on babies when it was needed | 9, C, Neo, F | |
| Introducing examination proformas into units | We have actually put this examination sheet on the network website for people to therefore look at it and try and make a better assessment of that | 6, C, Neo, M |
| Using standardised examinations | Out of several examinations available, we summarised the HNNES (Hammersmith Neonatal Neurology Examination) for babies undergoing hypothermia | 14, C, Neo, F |
| Improving training | Since I’ve joined here, err, I started doing 6 monthly erm neurological days study days and one of the topics which we do cover is the neonatal neurological examination | 20, C, Neo, F |
| Low priority culture | It is just a self-perpetuating thing. You don’t do it. You don’t know why. And then you think there is no problem with that | 6, C, Neo, M |
| The problem is not the lack of a tool. It is one of the problems- but it is not the main problem. The main problem is the culture. The main problem is the way we are trained to think of the neurological examination being a ‘not important’ part of the newborn examination. And I think that is what needs to change | 9, C, Neo, F | |
| Culture of importance | I think part of it is about, um, you know, changing our culture, um, and the way we, sort of, approach neurological examination in general. Um, and that can be fun and nice, and quick. And it doesn’t need to be this absolute mountain that you have to climb every time | 18, Tr, Paed, F |
| If you work in a hospital where there is a perinatal hypoxia management protocol that mandates that the doctor has to go back and examine the baby, it’s done. If that’s not there, then very unusual, very unusual. It’s definitely an overlooked bit of the neurological examination | 9, C, Neo, F | |
Abbreviations: ABC Airway, Breathing, Circulation, Tr Trainee, SG Staff Grade, C Consultant, Paed Paediatrics, Neo Neonatology, PNeurol Paediatric Neurology, M Male, F Female, CEX clinical evaluation exercise, a UK formative assessment of competency
Illustrative quotations for Theme 2 – practicalities of the neurological examination in unwell term neonates
| Subtheme | Quotation | Interviewee (No., Grade, Speciality, Gender) |
|---|---|---|
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| Assessing the level of consciousness | Why assessing conscious level is important for us immediately after birth is making this decision: does the baby have an encephalopathy, and should they be cooled or not…. it can be quite subjective | 3, C, Neo, M |
| I think it’s fairly simple, isn’t it? It… it almost feels to me like common sense. You know?…How difficult can it be to differentiate between somebody who is completely normal, to somebody who is completely unconscious, and somebody who is sat in the middle? | 6, C, Neo, M | |
| I think it’s really hard to assess conscious levels in babies other than, “are they awake? Are they asleep?” Um, I think definitely it would be good… like, in adults and in children, if you have this scale that you can, use as a tool to assess and to quantify, in a way | 18, Tr, Paed, F | |
| I would never think of using a Glasgow Coma Score. I’ve never seen GCS written in a baby’s notes, term or preterm, and I’ve never heard anyone in the notes or over the phone discuss the GCS of the baby when describing their neurological status. No. It’s not something I would ever use | 4, Tr, Neo, M | |
| I would probably use it, but use the modified, um, GCS but not, er… maybe subconsciously rather than absolutely consciously | 15, Tr, PNeurol, F | |
| I think AVPU is nice that it’s, um… you know, it’s fairly obvious if a patient responds to pain, right? And it’s fairly obvious if they respond to voice, and it’s fairly obvious if they are awake. But because it’s fairly obvious, it means that it’s not that sensitive to subtle changes in the patient’s status | 11, C, Paed, M | |
| I’ll tell you one of the things that has recently come up is… there is a dropped-baby guideline that is being set up nationally… and as part of that they would like us to use a modified Glasgow Coma Scale. Neonatologists think that Glasgow Coma Scales are meant for Paediatricians or adults or whatever be the case and it’s not for neonates… But you’ve now just popped this in front of me and say, “actually look at it and tell me: can you do this?” I’m thinking “Of course I can!” | 6, C, Neo, M | |
| Muscle tone and power | Tone is easy | 5, C, Neo, M |
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| I think their first assessment of power would be “are they making antigravity movements?” as a baseline….People want to do their formal assessments of power, which in a neonate you can’t do | 2, Tr, PNeurol, M | |
| The power is to say when they, um, when they kick their legs, kind of, against you, or you’re holding their arms and they’re trying to free themselves from you | 18, Tr, Paed, F | |
| Muscle power again depends on the state of the child | 23, C, PNeurol, F | |
| Anterior fontanelle | Assessment of the anterior fontanelle is a relatively straightforward thing to do because we all do it very frequently | 9, C, Neo, F |
| I don’t know what I’m doing with it. I mean, like… people like to tell me that they can work out whether the baby is dehydrated but… you’ve got to be profoundly dehydrated before your anterior fontanelle goes in. I mean, I suppose I do… I do feel it | 7, C, Neo, M | |
| So, they may be wearing a head-gear for the tube where you can’t assess the fontanelle or even the head circumference | 12, C, PNeurol, M | |
| Movements and posture | Presence of abnormal movements is again an observation—very heavily dependent on experience | 9, C, Neo, F |
| Quality of spontaneous movements is an important thing to look at. It is easy to look at. It helps a lot | 6, C, Neo, M | |
| It is fairly customary for us to start with looking at the posture of the baby, which itself is a marker of neurological status | 9, C, Neo, F | |
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| Truncal tone | Truncal tone would be difficult to assess if they are lying down and I can’t lift them up | 21, Tr, Paed, F |
| Primitive reflexes | Primitive reflexes may not be possible if they’re fragile and on a ventilator. You’re not going to be able to pick them up or do a Moro | 12, C, PNeurol, M |
| Nearly everyone who’s done more than a week on neonatal, of neonatal attachment, should know how to do and interpret a Moro | 9, C, Neo, F | |
| What is the value of a Moro reflex? I think there is a little bit of a lack of knowledge | 6, C, Neo, M | |
| Cry | I suppose, assessing what the difference between a ‘cry to pain’ and a ‘moan to pain’, and so an irritable… what’s the difference between an ‘irritable cry’, a ‘cry to pain’’, and a moan to pain’? People might struggle with that | 2, Tr, PNeurol, M |
| I think a normal cry is easy to differentiate between an irritable cry. And moaning is easy. So cry and moaning, you can differentiate between these two. And an irritable cry you can tell. I think you can differentiate these two | 6, C, Neo, M | |
| Sensory levels | Even trying to determine a sensory level, you can. Not always the most reliable, but in some situations it’s very obvious what the sensory level is when you examine the baby | 1, SG, PNeurol, F |
| Tendon reflexes | I think tendon reflexes are doable, it just takes a bit of practice and you’ve got to be consistently doing them fairly semi-regularly to continue with that | 11, C, Paed, M |
| I have to say, um er, definitely deep-tendon reflexes is not something that I am, er, confident at doing in a neonate | 18, Tr, Paed, F | |
| Well I think because we don’t use tendon hammers in neonatal unit. I use stethoscopes, which is a bad way | 5, C, Neo, M | |
| Cranial nerves | Cranial nerve examinations: oh my God! No, I don’t think I’ve ever done that in a baby | 7, C, Neo, M |
| Sucking: yes; pupil response: absolutely; gag reflex: we don’t do much, but yes, if this could be done; …. facial expression: yes;.… eye movements, including nystagmus, ophthalmoplegia: yes; visual ability, fixing-and-following in neonate … becomes difficult—I don’t find it very easy; …. pupillary reflexes: yes | 16, C, Paed, M | |
| Positive views | Our unit is quite good because most of … we have quite good AHP cover and all our AHP’s are trained in various neurological assessment err including the Hammersmith. So, babies who are on HDU / SCBU invariably will get weekly Hammersmith and that’s chartered in the notes and we are able to see it | 20, C, Neo, F |
| I love the stick diagrams. I think they are fantastic. Um, and I love the way that they, um, they tell you how to do it | 10, C, Neo, M | |
| If I was a paediatrician at a DGH who hadn’t done a lot of neonates, and I was faced with a newborn baby, it might be quite useful structure for me. It would give me something… it would remind me, kind of, what to do | 7, C, Neo, M | |
| Negative views | I’ve never seen, you know, the Hammersmith model printed out and put in the notes with tick boxes | 4, Tr, Neo, M |
| If they’re really sick and they’re tubed there are certain things you are not going to be able to do | 19, Tr, Paed, F | |
| When I was a very junior doctor, we used to go and do, sort of, assessments of gestational age, erm, using those standardised scores. I can’t remember what the name of the forms were, we haven’t used it for so many years now | 3, C, Neo, M | |
| It’s a very long examination and this is something that almost borders into ‘do you really need to do it?’. Because it is quite disturbing to the preterm infant, or even to the term infant | 9, C, Neo, F | |
| It’s got to be simpler. I think the more complicated things perhaps would help research more, but it probably wouldn’t help practical day to day basis at all | 23, C, PNeurol, F | |
| The challenge is people need to be trained to do it properly | 9, C, Neo, F | |
| The writing is quite small for somebody with my eyesight | 7, C, Neo, M | |
| It’s busy. It’s got a lot of stuff in it. I think people need to think about, if they are trying to revamp this, to try and make it something that is useful that is one page and not one, two, three, four, five | 6, C, Neo, M | |
Abbreviations: GCS Glasgow Coma Scale, AVPU Alert, Respond to Verbal command, Pain, Unresponsive, AHP Allied Health Professionals, HDU High Dependency Unit, SCBU Special Care Baby Unit, DGH District General Hospital, Tr Trainee, SG Staff Grade, C Consultant, Paed Paediatrics, Neo Neonatology, PNeurol Paediatric Neurology, M Male, F Female
Illustrative quotations for Theme 3 – changing the culture
| Subtheme | Quotation | Interviewee (No., Grade, Speciality, Gender) |
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| I think we need to raise awareness. And I think the only way to raise awareness is making sure that it doesn’t… it doesn’t feel like the neurology of a baby is unimportant | 6, C, Neo, M | |
| You will have resistance, of course, people have fixed practices on how they do things. I think a lot of it is whether you are able convince, because you’re talking to a group of people who look after children on a day in day out basis, isn’t it? And if you’re able to convince them that this is going to make sense for the child, then you will be able to push it forward | 23, C, PNeurol, F | |
| Appropriate examination | I think the only way you can do this is you try and make it more structured | 6, C, Neo, M |
| It needs to focus on the things that you can do in a real world not in a perfect world, because it’s never going to be a perfect world because they are sick | 4, Tr, Neo, M | |
| If it’s slightly shorter, I would really welcome it. Then you would do it, maybe, over time to see progression or improvement or, you know, if there is any deterioration | 17, C, Paed, F | |
| The nursing staff could actually give you a lot more information | 15, Tr, PNeurol, F | |
| I think just encouraging people to think whilst they are watching. Just to observe and look | 7, C, Neo, M | |
| Proforma to improve documentation | I think something as a proforma in a neurological examination would be useful | 15, Tr, PNeurol, F |
| Put an actual checklist in the notes, rather than relying on freehand documentation. Because if you have something ready to print out, and then you just have to tick which part you have examined, or say, “this needs examining later.” Um, if it’s sort of standardised between units as well, that would be really useful | 13, Tr, Paed, F | |
| Aid to interpretation | The tool is not much use unless it then leads to a “this constellation equals this” | 3, C, Neo, M |
| I think there’s too much mystery and… you know, there’s some new methods coming up and new scores coming up and, er… so, I think it… I think it needs to be made more accessible to trainees and clinicians as a whole | 10, C, Neo, M | |
| An algorithm, you know, that points you more towards peripheral muscle rather than central nervous-type aetiologies | 7, C, Neo, M | |
| Communication of results | It would be handy to be able… over the phone for the registrar, to be able to say, “I’ve done a…” you know, whatever score it turns out to be called, “and they score this.” And then I can say, “Ok. Well, where did they lose points?” | 11, C, Paed, M |
| Scoring | In the ideal world, everything should have a score attached to it and we add up the scores and that tells us which category the baby goes into | 9, C, Neo, F |
| So, change over time is nice if you’ve got a score or a scale, isn’t it, to follow changes over time? | 12, C, PNeurol, M | |
| I don’t know if they maybe hamper people’s ability to think through things and understand things. I wonder if people who have less of an interest or, if you’ve got a very junior person doing something, they still might at the end have absolutely no idea of what that means. Whereas, if you’re going through something less structured and less with a score, it might help you think a bit more | 8, Tr, Neo, F | |
| No need | I would say is I have never felt that there was a deficiency, erm so I think in using anything new, one has to feel that there is the need for that. So, one has to be very clear about where is the area of need. And erm this is just my general impression of what this study is about, erm, because I haven’t personally felt a particular need in that area. But all the best, I think, you know, there’s always scope for improvement and one probably doesn’t realise it till it actually happens | 22, C, PNeurol, F |
| Teaching courses and videos | I think a course is something that would help people | 6, C, Neo, M |
| I think there’s an opportunity for the clinical examination to have videos of abnormal signs demonstrated and to have people having to interpret them | 11, C, Paed, M | |
| Induction | Making it sort of part of the induction, and you know, making it part of routine practice, then automatically will include it in the normal things that we know that we need to be aware of | 22, C, PNeurol, F |
| Curriculum | It needs to be a part of training right from early on. I think the ideal way is the way anybody learns to examine any patient in medical school – it’s got to be down at that level | 23, C, PNeurol, F |
| More focus on it in the curriculum, particularly in the Tier 1 curriculum, because that’s where it starts | 9, C, Neo, F | |
| Assessment | Workplace assessments are a good way of assessing | 9, C, Neo, F |
| I think there should be more of neurological assessments for babies and children in the… in the RCPCH assessments | 10, C, Neo, M | |
| Culture change | It has to be a culture change. It has to be, like, “everybody, from now on we’re doing this.” | 17, C, Paed, F |
| Guidelines and protocols | I personally think, the neurological assessment, there is potential for improvement and it could be better if we have a dedicated protocol or guideline | 16, C, Paed, M |
| I think it would be helpful if there was a guideline, um, of which babies we need to look out for | 13, Tr, Paed, F | |
| Using research studies to implement clinical change | So as part of the study you had to have this neurological examination documented in a specific sheet. So, my way of bringing that examination into the department was to say, “well, we actually are including babies for this study and therefore we have to do this.” | 6, C, Neo, M |
| Modelling | You, kind of, need to improve the confidence of the Consultants to then filter down to the juniors | 1, SG, PNeurol, F |
| I think that kind of comes from the top… from the trainee’s point of view it comes from the culture of the Consultant | 12, C, PNeurol, M | |
Abbreviations: Tr Trainee, SG Staff Grade, C Consultant, Paed Paediatrics, Neo Neonatology, PNeurol Paediatric Neurology, M Male, F Female