Auguste Dargent1, Alexandra Hombreux2, Hugo Roccia2, Laurent Argaud3, Martin Cour3, Claude Guérin3. 1. Hospices Civils de Lyon, Hôpital Edouard Herriot, Service de Médecine Intensive-Réanimation, F-69437 Lyon, France; APCSe VetAgro Sup UPSP 2016.A101, Marcy l'Etoile, France. Electronic address: auguste.dargent@chu-lyon.fr. 2. Hospices Civils de Lyon, Hôpital Edouard Herriot, Service de Médecine Intensive-Réanimation, F-69437 Lyon, France. 3. Hospices Civils de Lyon, Hôpital Edouard Herriot, Service de Médecine Intensive-Réanimation, F-69437 Lyon, France; Université de Lyon, Université Claude Bernard Lyon 1, Faculté de médecine Lyon-Est, F-69373 Lyon, France.
Dear Editor,We thank Antonio Esquinas and co-authors for critically discussing the results of our study “Feasibility of non- invasive respiratory drive and breathing pattern evaluation using CPAP in COVID-19 patients”, recently published in the Journal of Critical Care [1]. We would like to take the opportunity to respond to the authors' concerns and to clarify some methodological points of our study.First, regarding the amount of positive end-expiratory pressure (PEEP) applied with high-flow nasal cannula (HFNC) and its equivalence with continuous positive airway pressure (CPAP). Although HFNC demonstrated a true PEEP-like effect with an increase in end-expiratory lung volume (EELV) [2], it is true that this effect is very limited and is not equivalent to conventional CPAP. Furthermore, a direct comparison of CPAP and HFNC is difficult because the airway pressure level during HFNC is highly variable between patients and during the respiratory cycle [3]. In the most optimal conditions, HFNC can provide up to 3 cmH2O of end-expiratory tracheal pressure (5 cmH2O with closed mouth) [3,4]. PEEP level is much higher, around 10–11 cmH2O, when CPAP is used during acute hypoxemic respiratory failure (AHRF), especially during the COVID-19 pandemic [5]. In our study, we deliberately chose a lower CPAP pressure level. Indeed, our objective was not to assess the effect of PEEP on the respiratory drive. CPAP was rather an instrument in determining physiologic parameters, in conditions as close as possible to HFNC's. The effect of PEEP on respiratory drive was explored in the experimental work of Morais et al., cited by the authors [6]. This study showed that PEEP-induced lung recruitment in spontaneously breathing animals decreased the intensity of inspiratory effort, and decreased both localized pulmonary stretch and subsequent self-induced lung injury. In some of our patients, CPAP may indeed have induced a lung recruitment (despite low pressure levels and a short application), which could have lowered respiratory drive and effort. Some evaluation of EELV, as it can be done with electrical impedance tomography, might have address this potential bias.Second, the authors noted the hypocapnia observed in our patients and questioned its interaction with respiratory drive. During AHRF, the relation between PaCO2 and minute ventilation (Ve) changes, with an uncoupling of the so-called “ventilation curve” (Ve change induced by a PaCO2 change) and the “brain curve” (i.e. the neural respiratory drive for a given PaCO2) [7]. This results in a higher sensitivity to CO2 and explains why patients with AHRF are generally hypocapnic. Thus, decreased PaCO2 and increased P0.1 are both related to increased respiratory drive.Finally, the reliability of respiratory drive parameters is questionable with a non-invasive interface such as a face mask, and the air leaks it generates. These leaks are likely to underestimate the true P0.1 value. In spite of this limitation, in all of our patients P0.1 was much higher than the normal values, indicating a high respiratory drive, which was expected in them. However, CPAP-assisted measurement of P0.1 is probably decreasing the signal-to-noise ratio of this parameter (validated in invasive mechanical ventilation), and we agree with the authors' final comment that further clinical trials are warranted to validate the accuracy of P0.1 in this setting.
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