| 1.1 Primary care limitations (in terms of the extent to which it can provide gender sensitive and targeted CBE screening services) | Insufficient staff resources and high workload | I do it myself to an extent I wanted to cry (laugh), so that many people would come here. Last time I only had 2 staffs, with my assistant, I do everything alone. Last year is very, my bad year (laugh). Even for school holiday, I didn’t take any leave, my children is off school for one month, just sit here with me (laugh), from morning until, uh, until end of the month when we have written mail, I struggled, even one day, full week, I had to work from 8 AM in the morning until 8PM! PM! I stayed here from 8AM until 8PM! Last time, until I cried (laugh).–LPPKN nurse |
| Long waiting times | ‘Older people. They prefer home visits. In the clinic or the hospital, the wait is long, they don’t want to waste their time.’–FGD Malay |
| Unavailability of female staff for CBE | ‘… Malay people, if they clinic only has male doctors, they will feel embarrassed’–FGD Malay‘…There are a lot of male doctors. The women are afraid to expose their bodies.’–FGD Indian‘… unfortunately we don’t have enough female doctors, I think ideally it should be helped by more female doctors, I don’t many female early in age group or even in the middle age group would like to volunteer themselves to go for medical examination. Of course we can teach them, but you can teach them, ideally again it would be a women, a women doctor or at least a nurse, a nurse background, so we don’t have that structure’–Private clinic doctor |
| Variable CBE clinical skills | ‘Yes, the nurses are trained for the breast examination, but mainly to educate, they were trained on how to educate the people, but whether they can pick up the lump or not, the senior one definitely, the junior ones are still lacking in experience.’–Government clinic doctor |
| CBE in clinics for at-risk women not the norm(often when patient symptomatic or opportunistic in antenatal clinics) | ‘…we only check when they complain about it! If they didn’t we wouldn’t know! If there’s a wound we can see. They complain, I am not feeling well, only then we can check.’–Government clinic doctor‘Anytime patient can walk in for the clinical breast examination, mainly it’s just that when patients have their babies, they come for antenatal check-up, then we will educate them on breast self-examination. Then the patient will do that at home, and they have problem they come in, there’s no special dates or special clinics for that. But this is outdated way, some of the recommendation, is uh, actually don’t recommend that anymore.’–Government clinic doctor |
| BSE taught mainly to women of child-bearing age | ‘…any patient coming to mother and child, they teach breast examination’–Government clinic doctor |
| Inadequate teaching about BC and BSE during community screening programmes due to societal norms (no physical contact) | ‘We are a conservative country, we don’t normally demonstrate it for [the women], normally they just show it through pictures, especially during health screening programmes. The most that we do is just show them the breast which have lesions, so let them try to have that touch, that feeling, what kind of lesion it is, that is the maximum that we did, but show them exactly how to do hands-on, no.’ Government clinic doctorI think maybe they have less exposure like maybe to the social media, because usually it’s the poster that say you need to examine like this and like that, but they don’t have a real person to teach them, the hands-on, how they going to demonstrate.–Private clinic doctor |
| Lack of suitable space for community outreach | ‘But this is a problem because usually these things are in an open space, there is no privacy to do BSE. These things are done by paramedics.’–Government clinic doctor |
| 1.2 Challenges in providing mammograms in public sector secondary care hospitals | Unavailability of (female) staff specialised in breast cancer care | ‘We have 14, only 4 of us are female radiographer, it also involves shift timetable, so sometimes female radiographer works at night, she will be working in the afternoon, so we lack of staff.’–Radiographer‘During that time, when we have palliative, we don’t have staff, staff who are at hospital are member of this palliative team. So, indeed we are short of staff. Sometimes it is related to doctor, if we don’t have doctor, then there’s no staff.’–Government hospital doctor‘… the country is still lacking specialists, […] the pool of medical officers will be getting more and more […]. Say you have 5 hospitals and you have 5000 doctors, okay, but talking about all the other supportive staffing things like nurses, it’s actually still lacking.’–Government hospital doctor |
| Lack of funding to subsidise mammograms | “They have subsidy for doing mammogram at private, however the subsidy takes time too, for their appointment. Not everyone can get it. They have their quota, only up to a number of patients can be sent for mammogram only.”–Government hospital nurseHowever, the situation is different too compared to the past, we didn’t have limited quota. Right. Many, 1000, sometimes it reaches 300 of our, what’s that, the registration. However, this year, we followed the budget from 2017, they only allocate, 1Malaysia clinic, how many of them? 15k or how many?—LPPKN nurseBecause of budget from the government. Prime Minister’s budget. Cutting budget. For last time, unlimited budget, so, quota, we don’t have quota.—LPPKN nurse |
| Poor maintenance of facilities (not just the equipment) | ‘…the mammogram at Muar, if the air-con has problems you cannot run the machine right? Doesn’t mean machine cannot be switched on, machine is okay, but the air-con is problematic, so you can’t turn the machine. It happened before. Furthermore, it’s an old machine. That’s the issue.’—Government hospital doctor |
| Poor patient information about mammogram screening | ‘If you to send out people to Pantai, they just do the mammogram and give them the slide and that’s it. They don’t explain to them. But if you send them to IIUM, they will explain, on the screen, on the, the … what you call? The x-ray.’–BCSS memberInterviewer: During your mammogram visit […], do the doctors and nurses provide deeper explanations?FGD (Indian): We cannot take so much information.Interviewer: Have you ever gone for a mammogram?FGD (Indian): Once, but we didn’t know what it was for. |
| 1.3 A disconnection between primary care-oriented BC screening pathway and secondary care | Competing government-set KPIs in different departments (inform budget for funded mammograms/ CBEs and motivate clinics to offer opportunistic screening) | ‘In fact initially also you will have a bit of hiccup [with providing clinical breast examination] because you have a KPI in the government health clinic, I only knew about this after we started running this centre, so they have a KPI of how many breast lumps that your clinics must examine, you know? That’s why I said, a lot of times, this come with policy maker, so as a policy maker, so you really need to understand what the groundworks are running.’–Government hospital doctor‘…you wait for them to realise there is a breast lump, then they will normally go and seek for consultation from the GPs, and GP will write a referral letter for them to see a surgeon in the hospital, will be referred to hospital. If you have been referred to a public hospital, most of the time under the surgical arm there will be a breast clinic, there will be a breast surgery clinic, or even if they don’t have a breast surgery clinic, they will see you under general surgery clinic, so most of the time from the previous year our experience is uh, when the patient went to the hospital with the referral letter, they will be given an appointment, which according to the KPI will be roughly about uh, not more than 1 month, so they will be given an appointment not more than 1 month, then after that you see the doctor, then the doctor feel that it’s a necessary for you to go through certain imaging, then they will book you up another appointment’—Government hospital doctor‘In Malaysia, you have a lot of all these policy, so there you have a little bit of hiccup, people thought you want to take over their job totally, right? So how about my KPI? My KPI would drop […] if you bypassed us to refer yourself to the BCare, but for us, standing on the other end of treatment, the ultimate people who are going to do to the surgery and going to treat the patient, we think that a lot of time all this initial seeing is unnecessary, we want to get to the patient as soon as possible to initiate the treatment, because we know very well that early detection and early treatment give you a better outcome! So that also having some hiccup, but I think after some years, they also understand very well.’–Government hospital doctor |
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2. Barriers
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| Personal experiences and barriers to help-seeking | Poor awareness and understanding about BC screening | ‘Because, another thing is that many doesn’t understand what mammogram is, they don’t understand and don’t want to know about it, the people from kampong right, women, because this is for those above 40 years old, like those elderly women with grandchildren, aged more than 40, so they tend not to want it, because they didn’t study much, so they’re like “what is that thing, don’t need it, don’t want!’–LPPKN nurse‘Some said if they did this x-ray, it will kill the cells, so they are afraid of getting this, they are like negative. Difficult too.’–LPPKN nurse
‘I am very sad is the, many people still don’t know about breast cancer.’–Cancer Survivor |
| Low perceived susceptibility | ‘…but they feel that they won’t have it, won’t have breast cancer, so they don’t have to check or do anything.’–Government clinic doctor |
| Preference for traditional treatment due to fear or lack of knowledge about medical procedures | Sometimes, they are afraid of the diagnosis. They would rather resort to a traditional healer.—FGD MalayYes. Most of my patients there don’t have legal documentation, they are Malaysians but they don’t have that, so they don’t have all these knowledge to go and see the doctor. They will go and see the bomoh (Shaman) first, then they will treat with all funny things, and then they come to us, that’s in late stage already.–Private clinic doctorWe only visit the traditional doctor when modern medicine isn’t effective.—FGD Malay‘…majority of Orang Asli will use traditional medication, whether it’s bomoh (Shaman) or herbs. So indeed these are passed down for generations, until now, I’m not sure about other villages, but my village, there are some who still practice taking traditional medication.’–Government clinic doctor |
| Financial concerns | Last time we used to go to Kuantan, so they give us subsidies to come from KL, so we have a van, we can take up 30 people, serve the public, and then they just pay RM30 for mammogram, and we all cancer patient free (laugh), transportation RM30, because we have a van, we have to get a driver, but now, we heard that we have a mammogram there, all refuse to go, because now they are not going to subsidise, because last time starting they give us 500 people every year, after that they reduce to 300, last year?—Cancer survivor |
| Access barriers (transportation; multiple visits) | Because the patient needs to come to us first, and fill up the form, upon completion they have to set the date to go. Sometimes, for those who drive they won’t mind, they choose the date, those who put on hold, ask husband or children first, to bring them there, so we had to put in the mammogram form first, and wait for them to call us back to confirm the date, only then we call the centre, it’s a bit troublesome. Quite difficult!—LPPKN nurse‘…not everyone will come, some are easy to come by the clinic and collect medicine, the other half is rather difficult for them to visit the clinic.’–Government clinic doctor‘Because some of them, not most of them, have their own transport. Some of them have to rent a taxi, RM50 per travel, RM100 just for them to come to clinic.’–Government hospital doctor“Sometimes they cannot come because of the vehicle, no transport. Sometimes I go and fetch them. They are poor and have a transportation problem.”–Community Volunteer |
| Ethnic differences (awareness, interest in screening, preference for doctor, willingness to pay) | For Malay people, if we need to be examined, we must see a female doctor. Not like Chinese or Indian people–they can see anyone. If we go, and there is only a male doctor, we will go home. They don’t allow us.—FGD MalayYes, I think we face the same issues. But for breast cancer, I think Chinese and Indian people are more open minded.—FGD MalayUsually there are more Chinese, awareness are higher among them. They are quicker, when there is something free, usually they are the one who act fast (laugh), compared to Indian.—LPPKN nurseEconomic differences uh, how to say, if Chinese, even though they are not so well-being, they will still go for private because they want to fastest treatment, and the if Malays and Indians, it depends, some they chose for government some chose private.–Private clinic doctor |
| Language/ literacy and health literacy barriers (materials are not tailored to address them) | I think media of course play a role, they go to all health clinics, all these brochure are available, uh….probably it’s not available in the language they can read.”–Community Volunteer“Because the education level is also low. So they may find it difficult to question or follow such talks. So if the expert can give this in the language they understand, then can be easily received.”–Community Volunteer |
| Poor support from husband who is often the main decision maker | “Ah, they don’t come…we have our organizations, so the earlier about the health education to the husbands… we do call the husbands, they say no, no, no lah, I’m not interested.”–Community Volunteer
Embarrassed and afraid. They are afraid of the diagnosis, that they may have to remove a breast. Then, their husband will find another woman. But for us–we are old, so if we don’t have one, that’s alright. But it’s different for the younger women.—FGD Malay
So even you put a prosthesis from outside, you still look fine but the issue is that they have difficulty facing their family, so some of my patient in Sabah, they said they refused to get treated because they are worried their husband are going to get a second or third wife. But I said if like this also I think your husband won’t want you right? You may die because of this, so they are a abit reluctant on that.–Private clinic doctor
"Sometimes, the husbands do not allow us to show our bodies to another man, even a doctor. Sometimes if we mentioned we are not feeling well, the husband would say it is a little thing only."—FGD Malay
‘I think the Malay and Indian, mostly the Malay they will follow the husbands, sometime, they won’t get permission from the husband, the family, you know.’–BCSS member |
| Competing priorities (child care) | ‘Malay take care of grandchildren. So they have no time. They come out, sometimes they say, okay, if you do it on Friday, im free. The mother can take the baby, they say to me. So, sometimes we do like that, Friday.’–Community Volunteer‘One or two backed out because they couldn’t get somebody to babysit their children. So they said they cannot.’–Community Volunteer |
| Embarrassment (to talk about BC and to show body to male doctor), need husband’s permission | ‘I always said that. For Orang Asli. Sometimes they felt embarrased to talk about it.’–Government clinic doctor‘If the clinic only has male doctors, we will feel embarrassed. It is mostly a feeling of embarrassment."–FGD with the Malay community members?’—FGD Malay‘Even if a woman has breast cancer, sometimes they are shy to see the doctor. There are a lot of male doctors. The women are afraid to expose their bodies.’–FGD Indian‘Sometimes, the husbands do not allow us to show our bodies to another man, even a doctor.’—FGD Malay |
| Fear of health checks (i.e. fear of pain and results) | ‘But you know old people–even if there are free health checks, they aren’t very willing to attend. They’re scared. When they find out that they’re sick, they get scared.’ FGD Malay‘First, [the Orang Asli] are afraid, indeed, second, they are embarassed. They always said "I’m so scared", definitely will say so.’ –Government clinic doctor‘…she asked me, is it very painful? I said no, it;s okay, Actually, it’s a little pain, I always tell them, you beat your hand is is painful? So, I said no, just a bit, doesn’t matter.’—Cancer survivor‘Yeah, many said they are afraid, afraid of pain, and also the results, fear of having the bad results.’–LPPKN nurse‘They are afraid that this machine will cause pain.’ LPPKN nurse |
| Fear of treatment (fear of losing hair and losing breast) | ‘One thing that I promote yes, maybe one other thing that we should promote is not only that ugly picture of breast cancer, we should show them the breast reconstruction also. Because normally the women are very pantang (forbidden) [talking] about the breast because [if] you don’t have a breast anymore then you are not a women anymore. So they are reluctant to get treatment’–Private clinic doctor‘This is important or your hair! There are a few you know, my hair dropped, then I don’t want. Eh, then I always have to explain to them, why you need chemo. So many people say don’t go for chemo, I have to explain to them, why you need chemo. And then some of them, I know it’s very frightening, I want to go to op, but I am sure you know mastectomy, how do they operate.’—Cancer survivor‘Sometimes I have to show my breast. Take it out, you see just only one mark and no stitches, so they said, there were few in the Bcare there, I showed them, oh like that only? Ok, then I don’t mind to do.’—Cancer survivor |
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3. Opportunities
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| 3.1 Community civil society activities | Community education to raise awareness about BC and screening | ‘We do all talks and awareness campaign whereby we teach them how to do BSE. It is very important for finding the initial stage, early detection. In this way we would teach them the way. So we would be organising awareness campaigns in schools or in anywhere.’–BCSS member‘We normally do the health talks in a place. We ask the woman to assemble in a particular house. The number is not many, maybe five. They came and we gave a demonstration and teach them on breast self-examination.’–Community Volunteer‘[NGOs] can set a day which they organise the campaign at offices or medical camp at the rural area, to raise awareness, give talks, increase knowledge among our target groups for them to understand how to detect breast cancer earlier. More talks and health campaigns to let our society truly understand about BC.’–District hospital nurse‘So the breast self-examination awareness is less, cause there is no body to tell, they don’t know where to get the information and how to go about it. We need to improve the awareness, especially to the elderly.’–Community Volunteer‘You all should do something for people to know more, maybe a seminar. Aunties do not have much information; we are not educated and do not know BC’s seriousness.’–FGD Indian |
| Support groups | ‘As time has gone by, we did have caring and sharing, but it was different. Caring and Sharing is done in other ways. Sewing, whereby they sit down together and talk, as they sew they will talk.’–BCSS member‘Mostly they gave sharing and caring, then they gave awareness, they helped so much with my family, giving moral support.’–BCSS member‘The BCSS gave sharing and caring support, they gave awareness and moral support.’–Community Volunteer |
| School awareness programmes | ‘Secondary school would be the best, because since secondary school they are exposed to science subjects, I think it is better.’–Government hospital doctor‘We do all talks and awareness campaign whereby we teach them how to do BSE. It is very important for finding the initial stage, early detection. In this way we would teach them the way. So we would be organising awareness campaigns in schools or in anywhere.’–BCSS member |
| Address stigma and embarrassment about breast cancer | ‘I think less for breast cancer or even cervical cancer, it’s like the talk they make it very very open, like public, so everybody wouldn’t feel shy anymore you know, like breasts, don’t know, feel shy and embarassed to go and ask, but once we open, public, then they will not feel any shy, they can ask anybody, they can discuss among themselves and also openly.’–Private clinic doctor |
| Target husbands to support women in seeking breast health-care | ‘It would be a wise action [to involve men in how to offer breast cancer support]. But they don’t know whether the men would attend or not. At least they would be more aware.’ FGD Chinese‘…they must ask permission from their husband. The husband says ‘no need to go’, sometimes it is like that. Because men sometimes don’t have good knowledge.’ Community Volunteer |
| 3.2 Links and networks between public healthcare personnel and community | Improve currently sporadic BSE education at primary and secondary care level | ‘We always have talks and bring the pamphlets and show everybody, and sometimes we ask those who did mammogram to spread the word with their neighbours.’–LPPKN nurse‘Sometimes the BCSS invites us to give talks. Other than that, we also collaborate with political parties such as UMNO, and with the club for wives of policemen.‘–Government hospital doctor‘When patient landed with us, straight away we teach them breast self-examination, they have to do it in front of mirror.’–Government hospital doctor‘Yeah, I will demonstrate and teach them breast self-examination to the female patients who are around the age where they should be practicing that.’–Private clinic doctor |
| Provide financial support, i.e. subsidised mammograms | ‘We must increase our budget to perform mammogram because it’s always high demand, so if we have the budget, we should increase the subsidy quota for mammogram screening.’–LPPKN nurse |