The six points raised by the author are known; he added nothing to the scientific
literature. However, I would like to clarify that there is no consensus about fast or not
fast for COPD population; this depends on the health state and also on the motivation and
beliefs of the patient. As mentioned in many studies, Ramadan fasting is mainly related to
changes on life mode and circadian rhythms (e.g., sleep cycle and hours of food); some
adaptations to fasting could occur in COPD patients, such as the medication time.Few studies have examined the effects of Ramadan Observances (RO) in patients with COPD.
Aydin et al. (2014) focused
almost exclusively on changes in medication use during RO. Rejeb et al. (2018) evaluated only the effects of
Ramadan fasting on inflammatory and hematological indices of COPD male patients. In
addition, little is known about the clinical, psychosocial, and physiological effects of
such fasting in COPD. Therefore, the aim of our original study was to analyze the effects of
RO on anthropometric, psychosocial, physiological, and postural characteristics in patients
with COPD. Participants of our study were male volunteers with COPD (Stages II and III), who
gave their written and informed consent to take part in a study approved by the local
committee for ethics. Smokers, those with cardiovascular or neurological disease, lower
extremely musculoskeletal problems, and visual or other health problems were excluded from
the study by our medical staff. No health problems were observed in all our stable COPD
Muslim patients who observed Ramadan fasting. We also confirm that Global Initiative for
Chronic Obstructive Lung Disease published in 2022 has not presented any recommendations for
the patients who prefer fasting during Ramadan.
Specific Responses
Responses related to the six points raised by the author. First of all, we would like to be
precise that we used original and pertinent references. In each point, the author mentioned
his own reference (Ben saad,
2019, 2020; Ben saad et al., 2014; etc.) or the
references of his team (Daami et al.,
2017; Rejeb et al.,
2018). In our paper, the choice of references is mainly based on scientific
criteria, such as the reference should be pertinent and presenting original results.The criteria related to the COPD diagnosis are mentioned in the “Method” section
(subsection “Sample”), according to the GOLD guidelines (D. Singh et al., 2019). As Reviewer 2
recommended to supplement the relevant literature in the last 5 years, we modified some
references. Stages II and III were selected based on the postbronchodilator
FEV1 (Celli et al.,
2016; GOLD, 2015;
D. Singh et al., 2019).
The ratio between FEV1/FVC < 0.70 or lower limit of normal was also
performed in our study. We used the GOLD guidelines, which are well known in the
scientific community. In our study, these GOLD guidelines constituted our methodological
basis to diagnosis and to classify COPD patients.We reported exclusion criteria in the “Method” section (subsection “Sample”): Smokers,
those with cardiovascular or neurological disease, lower extremely musculoskeletal
problems, and visual or other health problems were excluded from the study by our
medical staff. This sentence includes cardiovascular problems (hypertension and
tachycardia), which are transposable to the 6-minute walking test (6MWT)
contraindications. In addition, we expressed the performance in the 6-minute walking
test distance (6MWTD) in meters (m), which is the common unit used in many publications
(Acheche et al., 2020;
ATS, 2002; Celli et al., 2016; Mekki et al., 2019; Holland et al., 2014; S. J. Singh et al., 2014). The
distance walked in meters has similar capacity to predict mortality as the values
corrected by using reference equations (Polkey et al., 2013; Puhan et al., 2008; S. J. Singh et al., 2014), so the 6MWTD is
reported in meters. Hence, Celli et
al. (2016) demonstrated that 6MWTD in meters (i.e., less than 350 m
progressively increases the risk of death and hospitalization) can be used to stratify
patients with COPD for clinical trials and interventions. We compared the patient with
himself during three periods (before Ramadan, second week of fasting, and fourth week of
Ramadan fasting) to verify the impact of fasting on the selected parameters. The
expression of the performance in percentage of predicted normal values could be also
valuable for clinical aims.We used the validated French version of the quality of life questionnaire (VQ11). It is
important to notify that our patients are francophone and most of them have a sufficient
schooling level to understand the French version. Nevertheless, when a word was not
understood by a patient, it was fully explained by the investigator. In addition, the
studies mentioned by the author of the letter to the Editor related to the VQ11 were
published after 2015 and our study was conducted in 2015 and this is why we had used the
validated French version in that time (the time between the end of our study and its
publication in AJMH).We disagree with the author’s use of the Bland and Altman’s (1995) method. The statistical
analysis according to Bland and
Altman (1995) is a method of data plotting used in analyzing the agreement
between two different assays. Our data were analyzed in three different periods for the
same group. In our study, the statistical method used is more appropriate. This method
was used by the research team of the author’s letter to the Editor (Latiri et al., 2017 in
AJMH, and Zouari
et al., 2018 in AJMH). Our data were analyzed using a one-way
repeated measures analysis of variance (ANOVA; three testing periods) and the two-way
ANOVA (for the VQ11; three periods × four components of the questionnaire). A post hoc
Tukey test was performed to compare the results. In addition, effect sizes for one-way
ANOVA were calculated as eta squared, and for two-way ANOVA to assess the practical
significance of our findings (Lakens, 2013). This method is used by several studies.First, the conventional cutoff for the “p” value to be considered
statistically significant is of .05 (or 5%). What a p < .05 implies
is that the possibility of the results in a study being due to chance is <5%.
Clinical significance, on the contrary, refers to the magnitude of the actual treatment
effect (also known as the “effect size”), which will determine whether the results of
the trial are likely to affect current medical practice (Ranganathan et al., 2015). The effect size was
used in our study. However, in the revised version of our manuscript, the reviewer
recommended us to remove all the F values and solely report means ±
SD and p values that make it easier to follow.
Minimal clinical important difference (MCID) could be of interest. In fact, in our study
the 6MWTD mean value measured during the second week of Ramadan was significantly lower
than the one measured before Ramadan (485 ± 55.1 vs. 521.3 ± 44.7, p
< .001) and the mean difference between the two sessions (estimated 37 m) does exceed
the MCID of 30 m (Holland et al.,
2014).The sentence is clear: “To 2015, only one study has examined the effects of RIF in
patients with COPD.” The author mentioned that we omitted some studies. These studies
were published after 2015 and assessed only spirometric data, inflammatory and
hematological indices, and oxidant/antioxidant biomarkers during Ramadan fasting.
However, in our study we assessed other parameters, such as anthropometric,
psychosocial, physiological, and postural parameters during Ramadan in men with COPD. We
cannot cite references that are not directly linked to the objective of the study.Finally, I would like once again to sincerely thank you for the special attention you have
given to this matter and express my deep conviction that this letter to the Editor you
received will not have any impact on the trust governing the relation between our
institutions.Sincerely, yours
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