| Etiology | Pediatric“Kids are not generally responsible for what happens to them. Adults, with the exception of some things, like accidents and things which are uncontrollable, a lot of adult medical ICU, not necessarily surgical ICU, a lot of those are evolutionary products of whatever is going on. Those things are not really… You’re reaching terminal standpoint of things that occur acutely… I think you sort of feel… I think you can get tied into your patients a little more in paeds than what you do in the adult side. I think it’s a little bit easier to be a little bit more objective and say, you know, ‘They didn’t make their clinic visit today, it’s not my fault.’ Or if they have not been taking care of their diabetes for the last five years, and they come in post infarct secondary to bad vascular disease, there’s only so much I can do for that. I mean, I may be able to get them through this or I may not; but I can’t fix what’s there to begin with, it’s sort of where it’s at. Whereas in kids you can sort of say, ‘They didn’t really choose one way or the other’ and so you sort of look at it… Or at least, that’s the way I look at it.” |
| Future potential versus “a life is a life” | Adult “I think the same things are probably there because a life is a life. How can you say more valuable for a mother of three versus someone who has not had children versus a child versus someone who has raised three generations and been married for 60 years or something that? I think again some of it is how you relate personally. I think sometimes I find it really quite emotional talking to the surviving partner of an old couple who have been together forever because I think how it was for my mother when my father died and she was kind of left. But then someone who’s got a teenage child might relates to a situation when you’re dealing with a teenager or someone who is just have a baby looking after that. So I think a lot of it is how we relate to situations and how we put meaning on them from our own personal responses.”Pediatric“There is an expectation. There’s something special about children. There’s this ‘potential’ for children. I look at my patient who is nine months old, and wonder, ‘Could this kid be the president some day?’ you’re not looking at an 88 year old grandma and thinking could she be president one day, you’re looking back on her life, and seeing all the cool things she did… So we’re trying to… I would love to not have a job; I would love if we did not need pediatric intensive care physicians, but we do. Yeah... but I think of every child as like, ‘What is their maximum potential?’ ‘What are they gonna go do? What are they going to want to do?’ And I’ll often say things like that to parents, to help…. Because you’ll see the parents are having a bad day, or something. They might just be breaking because it’s been five days and it feels like nothing has changed, and I might be looking at numbers, and see that actually, things are a little better today. Sometimes I’ll have to talk to parents and say, ‘look, you know, our expectation of what your child is doing, and how they respond to therapies, is that they’re going to survive’. In my expectation, you know I’ll say to them, ‘if they want to go to college, they’ll go to college; if they want to be president, they should be able to be president; but they shouldn’t want to be president!” |
| Likeliness of poor outcome | Adult“I guess when I first started in ICU I thought of that [palliative role] as a disappointment or as a thing that was not sort of… I grumbled, but it was not our core business, but now I actually don’t mind doing that in that I think that it is probably our role as well, because we probably see from the start to the end a bit better than some of the other specialties.”Pediatric“The likelihood of good outcomes in the PICU is far higher than it is in adult ICUs. You know mortality rates in pediatric critical care units are in the low single digits, versus adult units, where it is 20, 25, 30%. So I think on the flipside, one of the things I remind myself is that the vast majority of kids that come in requiring our services in the ICU are going to get better and leave, and be essentially in the same condition they were before they came in.” |
| Expectation | Pediatric“I think pediatrics… I think a little bit because people expect their parents to die; they don’t expect their children to die. You plan for your parents to die; albeit, it’s very sad, when you lose a parent or a spouse but people who are in their 70s, they have lived a long life; people who are seven months old, most people aren’t ready for that. And so I think that burden… “ |