We thank the comments and suggestions in the letter by Avdeev et al. [1] addressing our recent article published in Intensive Care Medicine [2]. Indeed, as pointed out in the original article, we have limitations in our study since we only dealt with the most severe presentation of pulmonary coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), that is, the fatalities. In fact, getting pulmonary tissue from autopsy was an unavoidable limitation and the only possible approach to establish lung ultrasound (LUS)–histological correlations, as lung biopsies are not indicated in COVID-19.It is expected that part of the fibroproliferative changes in COVID-19-related acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) undergo some regression in survivors. Severe COVID-19 pneumonia is a disease characterised by a simultaneous combination of acute and fibroproliferative changes [2, 3]; in our study, the fibroproliferative pattern was defined as any degree of fibroblastic proliferation within the interstitium and alveolar spaces, including presence of loose aggregates of fibroblasts, collagen deposition, squamous metaplasia, and possible remnants of hyaline membranes [2]. In a larger series of 41 COVID-19 autopsies, we showed that a more advanced fibrotic pattern of pulmonary lesion is present in 39% of the patients and is associated with longer periods of hospitalisation [3]. This finding is in line with the study of Han et al., who showed lung fibrotic-like changes in 35% of severe COVID-19 patients who had a 6-month follow-up chest computed tomography [4]. Therefore, the use of LUS scores to detect fibroproliferative changes in severe COVID-19 patients can be important to conduct sequential in vivo studies aimed not only to identify the onset, but also to follow the possible partial reversibility of the pulmonary remodelling process. It may be possible that LUS scores can also be used as a complementary tool in the clinical-functional follow-up of patients on antifibrotic therapies for severe COVID-19 pneumonia [5].
Authors: Thais Mauad; Amaro Nunes Duarte-Neto; Luiz Fernando Ferraz da Silva; Ellen Pierre de Oliveira; Jose Mara de Brito; Ellen Caroline Toledo do Nascimento; Renata Aparecida de Almeida Monteiro; Juliana Carvalho Ferreira; Carlos Roberto Ribeiro de Carvalho; Paulo Hilário do Nascimento Saldiva; Marisa Dolhnikoff Journal: Respir Res Date: 2021-01-29
Authors: Sergey N Avdeev; Galina V Nekludova; Natalia V Trushenko; Andrey I Yaroshetskiy; Galia S Nuralieva Journal: Intensive Care Med Date: 2021-02-25 Impact factor: 17.440
Authors: Renata Aparecida de Almeida Monteiro; Amaro Nunes Duarte-Neto; Luiz Fernando Ferraz da Silva; Ellen Pierre de Oliveira; Ellen Caroline Toledo do Nascimento; Thais Mauad; Paulo Hilário do Nascimento Saldiva; Marisa Dolhnikoff Journal: Intensive Care Med Date: 2021-01-03 Impact factor: 17.440
Authors: Sergey N Avdeev; Galina V Nekludova; Natalia V Trushenko; Andrey I Yaroshetskiy; Galia S Nuralieva Journal: Intensive Care Med Date: 2021-02-25 Impact factor: 17.440