| Literature DB >> 33520155 |
Edward White1, John Read2, Sherry Julo3.
Abstract
BACKGROUND: Antidepressant withdrawal is experienced by about half of people who try to reduce or come off their medication. It can be a debilitating, long lasting process. Many clinicians misdiagnose or minimise symptoms, inadvertently prolonging suffering. Most are unable to help patients safely taper off. There has been little research into the peer support communities that are playing an increasingly important role in helping people withdraw from psychiatric medications.Entities:
Keywords: Facebook groups; antidepressants; informed consent; peer support; social media; tapering; withdrawal
Year: 2021 PMID: 33520155 PMCID: PMC7816538 DOI: 10.1177/2045125320981174
Source DB: PubMed Journal: Ther Adv Psychopharmacol ISSN: 2045-1253
Summary of the Facebook withdrawal groups sampled during this study.
| Group no | Group name | Facebook group type | Which drugs are focussed on? | Type of advice provided | Number of Admins and Mods (29 January 2020) | Age of group in years (displayed by Facebook in the group description) | Number of members at 19 June 2020 | Membership growth per month | No of members per admin (20 June 2020) | Internet URL |
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| 1 | EFFEXOR (Venlafaxine) Side Effects, Withdrawal and Discontinuation Syndrome | Private | Venlafaxine (SNRI) | Support for those trying to taper off the drug, suffering withdrawal or protracted withdrawal | 10 (2 male, 8 female) | 7 | 6162 | 85 | 616 |
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| 2 | Effexor (Venlafaxine) Should Be Illegal | Private | Venlafaxine (SNRI) | Support for those trying to taper off the drug and suffering withdrawal | 7 (1 male, 6 female) | 8 | 2128 | 53 | 355 |
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| 3 | Cymbalta Hurts Worse | Private | Duloxetine (SNRI) | Support for those trying to taper off the drug and suffering withdrawal | 14 (all female) | 7 | 24282 | 386 | 1734 |
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| 4 | Cymbalta Survivors Support Group | Private | Duloxetine (SNRI) | Support for those trying to taper off the drug and suffering withdrawal | 21 (10 female, 11 community names) | 6 | 3362 | 19 | 160 |
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| 5 | Cymbalta (Duloxetine) Should Be Illegal | Private | Duloxetine (SNRI) | Support for those trying to taper off the drug | 6 (all female) | 5 | 2768 | 61 | 461 |
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| 6 | Cymbalta Withdrawal Horror Stories | Public | Duloxetine (SNRI) | General discussion and withdrawal stories | 1 generic account | Unknown | 2037 | 36 | n/a |
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| 7 | Cymbalta Dangers International | Public | Duloxetine (SNRI) | General discussion and information. Some withdrawal support | 1 generic account | Unknown | 2403 | 55 | n/a |
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| 8 | Citalopram Withdrawal | Public | Citalopram (SSRI) | General discussion and withdrawal support | 1 generic account | Unknown | 2424 | 32 | n/a |
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| 9 | Celexa (Citalopram, Cipramil) Should Be Illegal | Private | Citalopram (SSRI) | Support for those trying to taper off the drug | 5 (all female) | 5 | 1465 | 47 | 293 |
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| 10 | Zoloft (Sertraline) should be illegal | Private | Sertraline (SSRI) | Support for those trying to taper off the drug | 8 (all female) | 5 | 4370 | 125 | 546 |
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| 11 | Sertraline, side-effects and withdrawal symptoms | Private | Sertraline (SSRI) | Support for those struggling with side effects and trying to taper off the drug | 5 (all female) | 5 | 5279 | 231 | 957 |
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| 12 | Paxil Paroxetine, Seroxat. The truth in getting off safely | Private | Paroxetine (SSRI) | Support for those trying to taper off the drug | 2 (both female) | 9 | 1733 | 16 | 867 |
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| 13 | SSRI/Antidepressant (Paroxetine, Paxil, Seroxat) Withdrawal | Private | Paroxetine (SSRI) | Support for those trying to taper off the drug | 8 (2 male, 6 female). | 9 | 3356 | 108 | 420 |
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| 14 | Life Beyond SSRI Antidepressants - Prozac, Effexor and many more. | Private | All SSRIs and other antidepressants | General discussion and member support for withdrawal and beyond | 1 (female) | 9 | 2872 | –18 | 2872 |
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| 15 | Let’s Talk Withdrawal Podcast | Private | All | General discussion and information about prescribed drug withdrawal | 1 (male) | 3 | 1975 | 35 | 1975 |
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| 16 | Coming Off Psych Drugs | Private | All | Support for those trying to taper off the drugs | 10 (3 female and 7 generic accounts) | 5 | 509 | 5 | 51 |
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| Total Membership (all groups) | 67,125 | Mean ± SD | Mean ±SD |
Admin, administrator; mod, moderator; SD, standard deviation; SNRI, serotonin-norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor; SSRI, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor.
Figure 1.The total membership of the studied Facebook groups between 5 May 2019 and 10 June 2020. Solid circles represent the total membership of Groups 1–4, 6–10 and 13–16 (13 groups, recorded on five dates) and solid squares are the total membership of all 16 groups (recorded on three dates).
Figure 2.Relationship between total group membership on 10 June 2020 and membership growth rate during the study period (5 May 2019–10 June 2020) where group membership growth was positive (n = 15).
Figure 3.Cumulative number of private group (n = 13) members per medication. Numbers above bars are the number of groups for each medication.
Group descriptions or mission statements for each group as published on Facebook, where available.
| Group number | Group mission or description (first paragraph only if extended length) |
|---|---|
| 1 | GROUP RULES and MISSION! |
| 2 | This is an anti-psychotropic drug group. Do you feel like you have just woken up from a fog in which your mind crackles, you can’t remember a thing, your thinking is totally disorganized and you have alienated and angered nearly everyone you love thanks to your insane behaviour? Or have you woken up to realize that you have actually done something that absolutely horrifies you – something you would only do in your worst imaginable nightmare? Or maybe a loved one on Effexor has stopped loving you, took no interest in sex or relationships and has become a lethargic shadow of themselves. It most likely is the Effexor! |
| 3 | This group is a resource for Cymbalta/duloxetine information and tapering guidelines. If you are looking for the safest way known to get off Cymbalta/duloxetine please read our file on recommended tapering methods. We are not fans of Cymbalta and other psychotropics. The community is growing at a rapid pace due to the problems that are rarely warned about by doctors. We used to welcome each new member but due to time constraints it just isn’t practical anymore. |
| 4 | Cymbalta Survivors Support Group HATES Cymbalta and Warns Strongly AGAINST starting all Rx psychotropic drugs! |
| 5 | Welcome to the “Cymbalta (Duloxetine) Should Be Illegal” group which is a group owned by author and the Executive Director of the International Coalition for Drug Awareness Ann Blake-Tracy. One of Ann’s main websites is |
| 7 | Mission |
| 8 | The Citalopram Withdrawal Facebook page is a place for people to talk about citalopram withdrawal symptoms. Visit us for more information at: |
| 11 | Following some very distressing personal experiences we have decided to form this group so that people who are prescribed this medication can discuss how it has affected them both on and withdrawing from this drug |
| 12 | For fellow users or, colleagues in discontinuation, withdrawal or about to taper, who require advice, help or assistance, setting up safe, effective programmes, off these highly toxic, devastating medications. We are here to help!!! Our style is simple, we advise safely, frankly and in a focused, channelled manner. Let us help you heal your brain, safely and slowly during your Paxil/Paroxetine/Seroxat, Prozac or, SSRI experience. |
| 13 | This group was formed to help and support those in need of help coming off of the SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor) known by the name of PAXIL, SEROXAT or generically as PAROXETINE. We also welcome members who are withdrawing from similar antidepressants. |
| 14 | Welcome to our group. We come from all walks of life and share one thing in common; Our lives and/or the lives of friends or family, have been negatively affected by SSRI & SNRI medications. Every member’s contribution to this group is valuable and all opinions are welcomed. Members are encouraged to actively participate and to share freely, anything from a scientific journal excerpt, to a controversial/opinion-based essay, or even a light hearted comic picture. Please be mindful that this is a closed group, meaning that only members can see posts. Any written posts made within this group page are to stay here on the page, unless you gain permission of the original poster to share it, to help assure an environment of safety and confidentiality. |
| 15 | Welcome to the Let’s Talk Withdrawal Podcast Group. This is a place to discuss issues around psychotropic drugs such as antidepressants, antipsychotics and benzodiazepines. This group doesn’t offer specific tapering support but we do host lively discussions and members have plenty of experience of taking and coming off psychiatric drugs. We don’t offer medical advice, partly because we know that medical advice is sorely lacking in this particular area. As with all other FB groups, please respect each other. Thank you |
| 16 | This group is to support people who are coming off psych drugs, opting not to take them, or experiencing withdrawal or protracted withdrawal. We are here to support each other in a positive way and share our own experiences rather than tell others what to do. We can say what has worked or not worked for us. |
Groups 6, 9 and 10 did not publish a description or mission statement.
Figure 4.Cumulative growth of membership in Group 1, effexor (venlafaxine) side effects, withdrawal and discontinuation syndrome since group inception in November 2013.
Figure 5.Percentage of male and female members in Group 1 by age range (years) and sex in June 2020; n = 6162.
Figure 6.Country distribution of Group 1 members where country membership is greater than 20. Recorded on 29 January 2020.
Examples of Group 1 members’ reasons for seeking support online.
| Post date | Post content |
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| 16th January 2020 | I think we can all agree that venlafaxine/Effexor is utter poison and anyone wrongly prescribing this should be prosecuted……so why has nobody sued their doctors and has there not been and criminal investigations etc? Sorry if this is a really dumb thing to as. I’m just angry that we are all in this position and being robbed of ‘living’. I’m currently trying to taper from 37.5mg and struggling to cope with life at the moment. |
| 2nd April 2020 | Doctor is suggesting I taper 75mg to 37.5mg. Take the 37.5mg for one week then stop. This is the only option I have to do it as they won’t call in anymore….has anyone done it this fast? I know its gonna be torture. I wanna cry just thinking about it. Please help. |
| 21st April 2020 | “Counting out those tiny beads is difficult especially in the midst of the brain zaps. I’ve put together four days worth so far, just generally feeling achy and foggy. Brain zaps are milder….last time I tried to discontinue rapidly ( at a doctor’s instructions!!) and they were intolerable. I’m tapering from a low dose so I hope it won’t take a year! I was only on 75mg per day”. |
| 20th April 2020 | “I started this medicine in January. My doc progressed me up to 150mg. I started last week to get off of it with the “help” of my doctor. She had me go from 150 to 75. I felt bad the next day so I bumped it up to 112.5. Felt better 4 days later and then dropped to 75mg last Tuesday (so 7 days ago). 48 hours after dropping to 75, I felt symptoms. It got better each day but it’s now getting worse again”. |
| 17th January 2020 | “Short story is in October my doc said I can just stop it once I hit 37.5mg. Took their advice and just stopped. Got very ill very quickly so did 2 weeks of one tablet every other day (docs advice again!) and ended up in A&E. The psych docs at the hospital sent me home with sedatives to help ride out the withdrawals as I refused to go on another antidepressant. The next day I found this Facebook group and decided to reinstate asap. My new doctors gave me 37.5mg venlafaxine called Bluefish which are 3 tablets within the capsule. I went from 3 - 2.5 -2 -1.5 -1 and now trying to cut the last tablet in half. This is now an issue for me as I’m not able to cut/measure the tablet accurately and now I’m suffering”. |
| 16th April 2020 | “I am currently on 112.5 mg/day of Effexor. Started on 300mg last April and knew within a few months I wanted off as my anxiety was worse, fear of being alone and long term and short-term memory loss. I started tapering August 2019 dropped 75mg every 7 days as per my GP. When I reached 75mg I had a seizure. My doctor put me back up to 112.5mg and I have been afraid to taper since. I had another seizure April 15th of this year and again today. I am actually just waiting for a call from the neurologist regarding my sleep deprived EEG. My MRI showed ‘something’ going on in the left frontal lobe….I know seizures are listed as a side effect but has anyone else had seizures, either while tapering or on a steady dose? UPDATE: my EEG results were normal and the ‘small white spots’ on my MRI they see a lot and apparently means nothing”. |