R Koedooder1, S Schoenmakers2, A E Budding3,4, J S E Laven1. 1. Division of Reproductive Endocrinology and Infertility, Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, Erasmus University Medical Centre, Wytemaweg 80, 3015 CN Rotterdam, The Netherlands. 2. Division Obstetrics, Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, Erasmus University Medical Centre, Wytemaweg 80, 3015 CN Rotterdam, The Netherlands. 3. Laboratory of Immunogenetics, Department of Medical Microbiology and Infection Control, Amsterdam UMC, location VUmc, De Boelelaan 1108, 1081 HZ Amsterdam, The Netherlands. 4. IS-Diagnostics Ltd, Department of Medical Microbiology and Infection Control, Amsterdam UMC, location VUmc, Science Park 106, 1098 XG Amsterdam, The Netherlands.
Sir,We thank Haahr et al. for their critical notifications towards our recent
publication. We would like to elaborate on our study and on the points raised:Concerning their first comment that the IS-pro technique has not been externally validated,
we would like to point out that a brief PubMed search reveals a series of papers validating
all aspects of the IS-pro technique (Budding ; Budding ; Daniels ; Budding ; Eck ; Eck )
and highlighting its applicability as a highly reproducible assay that can be applied to
clinical diagnostics. This is in contrast to current sequencing approaches, which do not
have the inter-hospital reproducibility required for clinical diagnostics (Lozupone ).Furthermore, as can be read in our protocol paper (Koedooder ), we performed the analyses with both 16s
rRNA gene sequencing and the IS-pro technique. The manuscript that compares these analyses
with each other is in preparation, but the scope will be that the results yielded very
similar vaginal microbiome profiles, with a median Pearson’s R2 of 0.97. This indicates a
high level of similarity between 16s rRNA gene sequencing and IS-pro results.We could have described the external validation group in more detail. However, restrictions
in manuscript length forced us to make choices in what information to include. The baseline
characteristics of the original study group showed no differences between women with a
favourable and unfavourable profile. Moreover, the treatment in Germany is comparable to the
treatment in the Netherlands.Regarding the comments raised concerning the community state types (CSTs), it is important
to note that there are no formal definitions of the CSTs, and true beta-diversity in vaginal
samples is larger than what can be captured by the artificial classification in five CSTs.
This is reflected in Fig. 1 of our paper. We decided to include the CST classification
merely to provide easier insight into the data set, and CST classification is no part of our
predictive algorithm.Regarding the remark that `microbiome methods do not sufficiently take into account the
total abundance of bacteria’, we wonder what `microbiome methods’ are referred to here.
Moreover, we wonder what would be `sufficient’ for what purposes and what
`misclassification’ is referred to. Some clarity in these important points would be
essential to address them properly.Concerning IS-pro, we would like to point out that this technique is semi-quantitative and
certainly reflects the total abundance of bacteria. However, as Haahr et
al. point out themselves, as we are comparing `relative’ abundances, total load
is not important for this goal.Concerning Fig. 3, we were aware of the error in Fig. 3, provided the correct version of
Fig. 3, and in the meantime the journal has decided to publish a correction in the form of a
corrigendum.While this study was indeed set up as a prospective cohort study, we did use the pregnancy
outcomes to optimize the cut-off levels of the predictive algorithm.Finally, we fully agree with Haahr et al. that it is of the utmost
importance to use validated and repeatable diagnostics. Therefore, we used the only tool
that has—to our knowledge—met these standards (Budding
; Budding
; Daniels
; Budding
; Eck ; Eck ). Outside the published validations, the IS-pro assay has been
Conformité Européenne/in-vitrodiagnostics (CE/IVD) marked to meet the highest international
demands for standardization in clinical diagnostics.
Authors: A E Budding; M E Grasman; F Lin; J A Bogaards; D J Soeltan-Kaersenhout; C M J E Vandenbroucke-Grauls; A A van Bodegraven; P H M Savelkoul Journal: FASEB J Date: 2010-07-19 Impact factor: 5.191
Authors: L Daniels; A E Budding; N de Korte; A Eck; J A Bogaards; H B Stockmann; E C Consten; P H Savelkoul; M A Boermeester Journal: Eur J Clin Microbiol Infect Dis Date: 2014-06-04 Impact factor: 3.267
Authors: Andries E Budding; Martine Hoogewerf; Christina M J E Vandenbroucke-Grauls; Paul H M Savelkoul Journal: J Clin Microbiol Date: 2016-01-13 Impact factor: 5.948
Authors: Andries E Budding; Matthijs E Grasman; Anat Eck; Johannes A Bogaards; Christina M J E Vandenbroucke-Grauls; Adriaan A van Bodegraven; Paul H M Savelkoul Journal: PLoS One Date: 2014-07-14 Impact factor: 3.240
Authors: Rivka Koedooder; Martin Singer; Sam Schoenmakers; Paul Hendrik Maria Savelkoul; Servaas Antonie Morré; Jonathan Dennis de Jonge; Linda Poort; Willem-Jan Simon Stephanus Cuypers; Andries Edward Budding; Joop Stephanus Elisabeth Laven Journal: Reprod Health Date: 2018-12-07 Impact factor: 3.223
Authors: Catherine A Lozupone; Jesse Stombaugh; Antonio Gonzalez; Gail Ackermann; Doug Wendel; Yoshiki Vázquez-Baeza; Janet K Jansson; Jeffrey I Gordon; Rob Knight Journal: Genome Res Date: 2013-07-16 Impact factor: 9.043
Authors: A Eck; L M Zintgraf; E F J de Groot; T G J de Meij; T S Cohen; P H M Savelkoul; M Welling; A E Budding Journal: BMC Bioinformatics Date: 2017-10-04 Impact factor: 3.169