| Literature DB >> 30445453 |
E Charani1, R Ahmad1, T M Rawson1, E Castro-Sanchèz1, C Tarrant2, A H Holmes1.
Abstract
BACKGROUND: Cultural and social determinants influence antibiotic decision-making in hospitals. We investigated and compared cultural determinants of antibiotic decision-making in acute medical and surgical specialties.Entities:
Keywords: antimicrobial decision-making; culture; team dynamics
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Year: 2019 PMID: 30445453 PMCID: PMC6579961 DOI: 10.1093/cid/ciy844
Source DB: PubMed Journal: Clin Infect Dis ISSN: 1058-4838 Impact factor: 9.079
Figure 1.The model of culture used in this study to study antibiotic decision-making [6]. Abbreviation: ASP, antibiotic stewardship program.
Figure 2.The data gathering and analysis process.
Figure 3.The key team dynamics and characteristics of the ward rounds (derived from field notes). Abbreviations: CRP, C-reactive protein; WCC, white cell count.
Key Emerging Themes
| Theme | Quote |
|---|---|
| Ward round characteristics | Q1: “The consultant asks the night team ‘what have you done?’ referring to any tests and examinations the team may have done overnight. He asks what the patient white cell count and C-reactive protein is. ‘What about antibiotics? What have you given him?’ The junior doctor answers that the emergency department [ED] team started the patient on piperacillin-tazobactam, and together with the consultant they reason that is an appropriate choice considering the patient is admitted from rehab. They then look at the laboratory results. The consultant sees the patient and decides to continue the antibiotics and also prescribe the patient furosemide. The pharmacist checks with the consultant if they are treating the patient with antibiotics for hospital acquired pneumonia because he’s been admitted from rehab. The consultant confirms this to be correct.” — |
| Q2: “If you’re a surgeon you don’t want to be on the ward, you’d rather be in clinic than on the ward. And it’s where you start off learning about patients really.” — | |
| Q3: “Leaving the ward the junior doctor continues: ‘What I hate about surgery is that the ward rounds are done in such a rush, we never get to delve into the patient history, in medicine there is more delving into the detail…. he has been in our care for 3 days and we didn’t know he has bronchiectasis.’ The surgical ward rounds are very intervention based. They are very rapid, the team, especially the seniors are under pressure to do round fast to go back to theatre.” | |
| Q4: “If there was a war we’d all die, if we were special ops we’d get shot, it’s just not, they’re not thinking big plan format.” — | |
| Q5: “You said it quite rightly, it’s disseminated, it’s like a puzzle. Different people hold different aspects of it, particularly it’s not just the medical staff, nursing staff and therapy staff and social workers.” — | |
| Q6: “There’s microbiology ward rounds … I think the [infectious disease consultant] has revolutionized our perception of treating infections, so I think a liaison service of someone of his personality who is enthusiastic, engaging, kind, and considerate. I think that’s the real change that’s required. What we need is a cultural change, and that is done through human interactions, not through facts and information. So, giving people facts isn’t going to change their perception, but heightened cultural awareness is, and so I think we need to engage people at a human level to make that change.” — | |
| Q7: “The pharmacists here on the ward round are really important. They, because the ethos driving us is so difficult and so confusing that, without them, I think there’d be a lot more errors and they will always point out what antibiotic they’re on and that.” — | |
| Uncertainty and a fear of blame | Q8: “If my patient gets a wound infection, for example, my case will be discussed at a Morbidity and Mortality meeting…it affects my data … and my outcome data will be on a website, so I’m going to practice pretty defensive medicine, absolutely.” — |
| Q9: “It’s the culture, it’s easy, it’s too easy to say put them on Tazocin because I don’t want my operation screwed up.” — | |
| Q10: “The intern goes to speak to the surgeon leading the ward round. I ask the junior doctor about the antibiotics that have been prescribed for the patients on the ward round. Specifically, about the piperacillin-tazobactam prescribed for the 2 patients. The junior doctor replies: ‘It is the surgeon’s choice for the patients… sometimes we treat with antibiotics when we can’t find evidence for infection. We are not as strict as pharmacy when it comes to antibiotics … we have to keep patients safe. There have been examples in the past when patient was not given antibiotics and developed an infection.” — | |
| Q11: We operate in gray areas, it’s rare that there’s 100% specific certainty. [In surgery] you’re either cutting someone open or you’re not, you’re either removing something or you’re not and I think when you add in medical decision-making in to surgery, that doesn’t really work, I think they have to know and so if you’re thinking, there might be an infection and you’ve already made a decision to literally cut someone open, uncertainty, they just don’t like that, and fair enough I think you’ve got to be really confident to cut a human being in bits, I think that’s not something I would fancy doing and I think it just is going to be a different mindset. It’s a different situation obviously as well, there’s the consequences I guess of getting it wrong are perhaps different as well both in terms of real outcomes but also maybe psychological that if you’ve cut someone open and then they get a horrible infection and they die, you look like an idiot. Whereas if one of my patients gets a horrible infection and dies, it’s not really my fault, whether it was avoidable or not, it just doesn’t feel like that.” — | |
| Q12: “The major challenge is this, is that, there is a fundamental difference in medicine and surgery, which is if someone comes in with a pneumonia, so you try and treat it, but that person with pneumonia dies. Well you tried and that’s OK. If someone comes in to hospital for an elective operation, and they die from sepsis or infection, that death was preventable and it’s your fault. And therefore, surgeons practice an incredibly defensive brand of medicine, and if there is even a small chance that me giving a dose of prophylactic antibiotics or keeping my patients on 10 days instead of 7, and it means that my patient’s outcome will be better, and my outcome data will be better, because I get judged, then I’m going to give that patient antibiotics. I’m going to do it, and so I think what you see is a lot of surgeons prescribe defensively, and they don’t really care what the evidence is, and they don’t really care what the problems [of] antibiotic resistance are. So I think that’s the major hurdle you’ve got to get over. And that’s a real challenge, because it’s not just providing an evidence base, you’re changing the entire culture.” — | |
| Q13: “There’s a lot of gray areas and if, in medicine, you didn’t take any risks, or any perceived risks, so things that seem like real risks to someone who’s inexperienced, someone who’s being doing the job for 20 years sees those risks as different and says, I’ve seen this 100 times …. if we stop the antibiotics here and see what happens for the next 24 hours, 48 hours … this might not be an infection…. I think there’s the part that’s there to make sure I haven’t missed anything serious, and there’s the part that’s there to actually de-escalate everything and go, well actually I think that we’re overdoing it now. And if we take a step back here there’ll be no harm done. Because it’s taking a risk on behalf of my consultant. When I’m a consultant, which I will be in a few months, it’s a slightly different game … it’s up to me and where my own risk compass lies in my barometer of these decisions. But it’s hard to second guess someone else and what they’d like.” | |
| Q14: “I think escalation is clearer, like I said, the consultant’s got 2 roles. One is to see what I’ve missed, the other is to de-escalate everyone being overzealous. And so the de-escalation’s something that’s definitely, I think, in the more senior camp. Whereas the escalation, I think the junior doctors are more likely to escalate than de-escalate. And I think that goes with the whole risk profile and nervousness.” — | |
| Q15: “I think it is the same with the junior doctors as well that they are more scared of not giving them because of the risk of what could happen vs the risk of giving them because, I think it’s to do with risk because it’s more risky not to give it.” — | |
| Legacy of infection diagnosis in ED determines antibiotic decision-making in medicine | Q16: “I do sometimes feel that people are inappropriately started on antibiotics and you think what, what’s the likely gain here? But it’s very difficult to do nothing, well it’s not very difficult, but you, you feel that you’re going to be criticized if you don’t do anything.” — |
| Q17: “You can be a little tied up, because as I say if somebody’s been on a certain treatment for a few days and they’re getting better, you slightly worry that if you downgrade or change then you may end up halting the improvement, if you go I don’t think I would have given this person Tazocin, but they’ve had it for 3 days and they’ve gone from being moribund to sitting up chatting away, well it’s quite difficult to then go well actually I would have given them 3 days of trimethoprim and that would have been it.” — | |
| Q18: “The junior doctor replies that no blood cultures had been sent. The consultant replies that ‘For all the people with sepsis we’ve got to make people realize they have to take blood culture before starting antibiotics.’ The intern comments on the difficulty of getting the diagnosis of sepsis right: ‘Anyone with a temperature is defined as having sepsis.’ Intern 2: ‘I have given up with ED trying to define what sepsis is with them, now I just roll over.” — | |
| Q19: “We’re often making decisions so early, that you don’t even notice whether they’re [results] back or not, it doesn’t matter, you know you’re not going to have any relevant information so you just get on and make a decision anyway, and it’s only when you bother to check back, but we’re so focused on the start of the admission, the front door and all that kind of thing, we’re getting a culture result 4 days later, if it pops up something interesting that’s great…and then you go, did we even send a culture, no, oh well bit late now…. But you don’t even know what’s gone. The only time you can guarantee getting an MSU [midstream urine] is if you’ve asked for urinary electrolytes and you can absolutely guarantee that the electrolytes weren’t sent, but MSU were sent….” — | |
| Q20: “It certainly is a different approach than with other medications. The main difference being that you’re picking the antibiotic in a time when you probably don’t know the diagnosis for sure. And it’s easy enough if you’ve got an x-ray that shows pneumonia. But quite often … it is a bit less of a definite diagnosis.” — | |
| Q21: “So I think there’s 2 big things and both are areas of uncertainty. The first one is, is this an infection at all? Because obviously there’s people who come in with clear criteria for sepsis and a focus and you say this is a sepsis syndrome and we know there’s a valid response, we know there’s a focus, we’ve got a rough idea what it’s likely to be, and we’ve got a protocol for treating and that’s fine ... [second uncertainty] is a lot of the time it’s not as clear cut as that, people come in nonspecifically unwell, and older people they may not develop a full obvious systemic inflammatory response, they might have a slightly raised inflammatory markers, they might have a bit of a temperature but it’s not anything specific and there’s no … symptoms, so first of all is there infection at all? And then secondly if there is, where is it likely to be? And that determines whether we give antibiotics at all or we watch and wait, because if we are giving antibiotics, which ones we should use based on what we think the likelihood of the underlying focus is. But, I think the first one is probably the more difficult one because the acute medical model, the focus on your first day in hospital, your first few hours in hospital is very much on somehow, despite all this uncertainty, we can make a decision immediately and set the course of your treatment.” — | |
| Q22: “I think there’s probably far too much acceptance that once somebody’s made that decision, and it’s not always a consultant who’s made that decision, that actually everyone might as well carry on. I think it’s partly the training here. I think it’s that, if somebody makes it through ED, makes into medical admission, it’s quite hard to do nothing. It’s hard to justify admitting them if you’re not doing very much. And I think in a younger person that is even more difficult.” – | |
| Q23: “I think there are improvements to be made in ED with what they start on, I’m always amazed at how much co-amoxiclav I see prescribed by ED. I have sympathies, they’re under pressure, they do more empirical treatment than we do. We’re seeing someone that maybe a few more hours down the line where they’re a bit more stable and there might be a clearer picture of where infection lies. Even so, co-amoxiclav is not in any guidance in the sense as far as I’m aware. But it still gets dished out … and it generally gets dished out in ED. I think almost as often as not, maybe 50% of the time it gets continued because it’s been started. So, I think there’s improvements to be made at where antibiotics is started.” — | |
| Q24: “I think it’s more fear than trust. I think the person who gets to know the patient best is the, is probably the junior doctor who clerks in a patient. And everyone from that person onwards is making an impression based upon information that they have to trust from someone else. So, I can see how there’s reluctance to change something that someone else has started, who you probably think knows the patient, and has got to grips with the situation better than you have. Plus, the longer that goes on, a day, 2 days, 3 days, you’re like, well, it’s not the best antibiotic but they’ve already had 2 days’ worth of it, you’ll continue that for the 5-day course.. I think that where to intervene is at the beginning and as early on as possible before things get down the line.” — |
Opportunities in Antibiotic Management in Surgery and Medicine
| Observed Practice | Opportunities | |
|---|---|---|
| Surgery | • Senior surgeons are not actively engaged in antibiotic decision-making | • The surgeons are the leaders in their specialty; engaging with a surgeon is tantamount to engaging with their entire team |
| Medicine | • The lack of communication in transition of care between ED and medical teams leading to prolonged inappropriate antibiotics initiated in ED | • Target ASP interventions on the first 48 hours after admission to rationalized antibiotics started in ED. Having a clinical pharmacist as part of medical WRs will assist with ensuring that antibiotic decisions are not overlooked and therapy is appropriate |
Abbreviations: ASP, antibiotic stewardship program; ED, emergency department; WR, ward round.