| Literature DB >> 30089526 |
Stéphane Cullati1,2, Patricia Hudelson3, Bara Ricou4, Mathieu Nendaz5,6, Thomas V Perneger7, Monica Escher8,5.
Abstract
BACKGROUND: Intensive care Unit (ICU) admission decisions involve collaboration between internists and intensivists. Clear perception of each other's roles is a prerequisite for good collaboration. The objective was to explore how internists and intensivists perceive their roles during admission decisions.Entities:
Keywords: Collaboration; Intensive care; Internal medicine; Medical decision making; Roles
Mesh:
Year: 2018 PMID: 30089526 PMCID: PMC6083517 DOI: 10.1186/s12913-018-3438-6
Source DB: PubMed Journal: BMC Health Serv Res ISSN: 1472-6963 Impact factor: 2.655
Characteristics of interviewees
| Internists | Intensivists | |
|---|---|---|
| Sex (female:male) | 3:9 | 4:8 |
| Age (years), median (range) | 34 (27–44) | 44 (30–51) |
| Number of years since graduation, median (range) | 7 (3–11) | 18 (6–24) |
| Number of years in the current professional position, median (range) | 2 (0–6) | 6 (1–11) |
Internists’ practical roles in decisions of admission to intensive care
| Roles | Quotes |
|---|---|
| Recognizes signs of severity | First, [ |
| Calls at the right moment | We have the impression that things are gradually deteriorating and we call the ICU a bit before things become a big catastrophe. (Med 12) |
| Has the relevant info about the patient | Before calling the ICU, we have to know the case well. That’s why we don’t call right away. Even if the nurses pressure us and say “you need to call the ICU”, we say “No, no, no, wait. Before calling I need to read the patient’s file”. (Med 02) |
| Determines the goals of care | It’s important to recognize those situations needing palliative care et not just therapeutic treatments. We have to change the conversation, explain to the patient how things are changing, his risk of dying, and accompany him, make him understand that he is in a different situation now, that he has to envision other possibilities, so that he can prepare and organize. (Med 04) |
| Continues care until arrival of ICU Dr | Having already initiated certain treatments, these internists know how to do it while waiting for the ICU consultant to arrive. (ICU 11) |
Intensivists’ practical roles in decisions of admission to intensive care
| Roles | Quotes |
|---|---|
| Makes quick decisions | We decide very quickly and accompany them very quickly. (ICU 04) |
| Provides care quickly | There can be really urgent situations where the patient risks dying if they don’t intervene quickly with the means we don’t have on the ward. In those situations, we expect [ |
| Assesses the patient | Anytime we receive a consultation request, whether it’s for an ICU admission or ends in a refusal, we systematically go to the ward to see the patient. (ICU 01) |
| Gives expert advice | We have to agree that the treatment plan is technically feasible, so that’s our decision. (ICU 05) |
| Manages access to ICU | When I say that we have requirements, it’s that we can’t take everyone in the ICU, patients need to have a reason to be here, they have to fulfill criteria for intensive care [...] we can’t take everyone just to help out, it’s not possible. (ICU 03) |
| Has the final decision power | He [ |
| Decides whether or not to limit treatment intensity | Every day, we have to decide whether or not to save patients (ICU 04) |
Identity roles of intensivists in decisions of admission to intensive care
| Type of identity role | Identity roles | Quotes |
|---|---|---|
| Decisions | Gatekeeper | Unfortunately, ICU admission decisions always have serious consequences: it’s important to provide benefit to the patient, avoid harming the patient, and it must also be a just decision for society. (ICU 12) |
| Life and death decision-maker | We are more or less capable of making life or death decisions quickly. If we choose [Intensive Care], it’s because we can tolerate it [to make life-death decisions quickly]. We’ve been selected. It’s a Darwinian selection. Those that can’t tolerate it go elsewhere. (ICU 05) | |
| Leader | Often, we sort out the emergencies or the degree of seriousness or worry regarding the patient, and we do it often for our colleagues. It’s part of our job, it’s normal. [...] When we’re called to make such decisions, they usually listen to us and it’s rare really to encounter any opposition. We are often the decision leaders (ICU 03) | |
| Support | Consultant | We’re not going to take their place, we indicate the options to explore, and then possibly afterwards the doctor calls us back [...] because the therapeutic alliance is with the ward doctor. We intervene only as a consultant. (ICU 11) |
| Senior | Our role is obviously to be there for the patient, but also maybe to train our colleagues, especially young colleagues working in the emergency department. That’s part of our role, really…we need to be attentive to their panic or worry. If we show up and say “no, it’s not serious” at least the resident is reassured and we won’t have come for nothing because they’ll be able to calmly take care of their other patients. (ICU 03) | |
| Helper | We’re really, in my opinion, one of the services that helps the most, as often as possible, those colleagues struggling with patients who are on the knife’s edge. (ICU 01) |
Identity roles of internists in decisions of admission to intensive care
| Type of identity role | Identity roles | Quotes |
|---|---|---|
| Decisions | Leader | What I need is for him [ |
| Partner | It’s true that the discussion is important, to be sure that the ICU consultant has understood things well. On the ward, we see patients more often, every day, and we have maybe a better sense of what the patient wants than the head of the ICU who arrives and has to get an idea in 15 min. That’s why we’re really complementary. (Med 03) |